Hero Push - Ideas and Bugs

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 15 January 2019 16:10)

@olayman: What do you mean "happen"?

olayman (Saturday, 12 January 2019 09:08)

what happen to hero push?

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 14 December 2018 20:54)

psychospy: Well there is still bots on the unoffical servers, but ye BNet removed bots on 1.30.2 :P

Well thats an evergoing balancing since your not really supposed to be uneven teams. But yes if the solo player is not totaly lost or bad and the people he faces are quite passive and gives the solo player time to use all that gold (165%) and get 200% Exp. Almost like when people are doing any none basic setup strat if you give them the time and gold they need they'll be quite strong.

Still as said the best way to fix this is to have Balanced teams 2v2v2v2 / 1v1v1v1 :P
playing alone vs bigger teams has it own little meta but as anything mostly if you dont kill someone they might kill you in the end :)
But ye this is something we've worked at for like the last 6 years :P


Thanks & have a Merry XMas and Happy New Years :P

psychospy (Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:11)

Hey! I have to say I'm really sad that bot can't host the map anymore. I miss stats and quick queues.
Anyway! That's history and we need to move on.

So I noticed, especially now, when people leave game more often than before, that player playing alone is definitely overpowered. Getting too much XP, too much gold and really stomping hard any 2 player team. Now I know it's a delicate matter, because what feels too strong now can easily become weak as fuck after even minor change, but... Please try to fix this. Maybe 10% xp and gold nerf will do for a good start, to see what happens.

Thanks for the best and most balanced custom map W3 ever had!

Best regards :-)

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 10 December 2018 21:34)

@landsoul: Hello Thanks for posting :P
1: SpeedScroll dont remove any "collision, youre thinking of GhostScroll.

2: Yes are several mana heavy heroes, however you can go back to base and heal up mana or buy pots.
The comments about item change without any explaination or argumentative points makes it hard to understand why those changes should be made but ok :P

3:That depends alot in how you use the hero and what hero it is but yes true a hero can rarely tank & turn the tide just by "being there". Well that all depends what you mean by "mid game" but are several defensive items or upgrades you can get :)

4: A very small % use those 2 anyway so adding more wouldnt really make sense or have the "need" But ye summons and more or less anything can be counterd quite hard if one knows how to & spend the time & money for it :P

landsoul (Monday, 10 December 2018 07:27)

1. Please remove collision removal from speed scroll, it's pretty cancer. The counters, although there are multiple: TP, repair, invuln pot, dispel, all are 4x as expensive and much more difficult to use.

2. Hero sustain: Too easy to run out of mana without mana items. Add a 2nd tier mana regen item between Lore helm I and regular sobi. Decrease mana gained and decrease cooldown of lore helm. Increase potency of regen ring / life crown I and II regen. Decrease cooldown of life helm.

3. Other than their spells, a naked hero's presence in the lane is trivial. The durability/damage of the hero without items do not keep on par with unit damage EHP and normal unit upgrades. If you do not invest completely in items, then the hero is paper with wet noodle. If you do choose to invest in items, there is not a healthy variety of defensive choices in the mid game. This contrasts heavily with weapon increments.

4. Add more dispel counterplay options to summons and scrolls other than dark wizard, troll priest.

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 01 December 2018 12:01)

@PushAssasin: make a topic where? only hereos that have difrent orb useage kinda gets a warning/tip when you get/pick it :)
You can join us on discord tho if you wanna talk bout it :P

PushAssasin (Friday, 30 November 2018 23:39)

Hi, please can u create topic about weapons? Which weapons are stuck for range/meele heros/multishot... lot of weapons not stuck together. THX

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 23 November 2018 17:15)

@Fremor94: Hello, IDK in 7 days we wont have bot hosting anywhere. so if someone/something is hosting HP you might wanna ask them and not us :) But no clue why rubattle dont have a game up, think it was removed months ago for some reason. and since we mainly(only) play on BNet it didnt matter to us anyway.
And nope dont know who you are so cant really be "afraid" of you, and even if I did that wouldnt matter, cant speak for everyone else tho :P
Ok GL in that regard then xD
We've had 2 bots up and hosting for a long time now 1 on BNet and 1 on alot of other servers, why its not on rubattle idk. you might wanna try iccup or eurobattle or something you might have more luck there.
And if they wanna play with statistics they might wanna play something else cuz HP dont really have stats, unless you mean the game count :P

Fremor94 (Thursday, 22 November 2018 23:48)

Hey lads, when on the server rubattle.net again will start to run Hero Push? There used to be a host card now no.
Are you afraid of me? I already want to shake the nerves of a pair of three foreigners.

Give a specific answer why there are no hosts on multiple servers? People want to play with statistics.

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 29 October 2018 15:02)

@aitron: Well there you go, Don't Play on Mac.

aitron (Sunday, 28 October 2018 16:20)

do the hotkeys work for you guys?
on Mac they don't :(

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 25 October 2018 01:20)

@mester816: Ye.

mester816 (Sunday, 07 October 2018 14:32)

@Pale-Jedi do you know the recipe?

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 07 October 2018 14:29)

@Mikkel +Dinmor: You got it confused with something else + we talked about this ingame.

@mester816: Yes it is known.

mester816 (Friday, 05 October 2018 19:27)

some one know how to build Gauntlets of the Dragonslayer?

Dinmor (Monday, 17 September 2018 22:06)

Remove ress scroll

Mikkel (Monday, 17 September 2018 20:43)

Remove that scroll of ress, that ress units and makes them invuln so lame

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 14 September 2018)

@malke: No, however we just got 1.30.1

malke (Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:32)

servers down?

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 11 September 2018 13:03)

@cptnmorgan1993: What do you mean not working?
It should be working, you might just have problems finding the games :P

cptnmorgan1993 (Monday, 10 September 2018 07:45)

Couldn't help but notice EU and Asia isn't working either. It was working for a couple weeks but now has disappeared.

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 20 August 2018 16:23)

@cptnmorgan1993: No reason other then that it might not host on your server at the moment, might be USEast/West that are having problem EU & Asia seems to be fine atm.

cptnmorgan1993 (Monday, 20 August 2018 06:40)

Hey there, For some reason for the past few weeks I havent been able to find Hero Push in the custom games menu anymore. Is there a reason why I am unable to see the game anymore? Thanks for any feedback.

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 11 August 2018 04:27)

@NICKBRAND: Ok, good that you didnt find it! :)
@WindofZhandou: Yes, There are a number of us that know. :P

ucantbuildthere (Friday, 10 August 2018 11:10)

wow

WindofZhandou (Friday, 10 August 2018 00:38)

Anyone know the recipe for Gauntlets of the Dragonslayer?

NICKBRAND (Thursday, 09 August 2018 20:23)

Well, I just tried ALL possible combinations in single mode (with money cheates - including the hinted shop) for the new secret dragonslayer item and it won't work, so I think there is some kind of mistake :(

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 07 August 2018 15:32)

@george We dont have "moderators", We have Clan members. In what way is it you think that they/some "abuse the game"?
Well good on you, the new heroes have fixed rng to enable that they get played & tested. So indeed its no coincidence.

Who/How/What is "ban racist" ?

george (Sunday, 05 August 2018 13:36)

idea: keep your moderators in check and dont allow them to abuse the game. getting same hero 5 games in a row doesnt seem like a coincidence to me. also ban racist?

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 28 July 2018 06:49)

@CTW: You do know we have a discord right? abit more simple just to inform there :)

CTW (Tuesday, 24 July 2018 05:52)

lol i’m te only one that reports bugs here? :P
Anyway, the spell that link units (of the Tauren Hero) is a bit bugged. U can upgrade it early (hero lvl 3-that spell lvl 2). Also, u can’t see the icon when u upgrade it.

CTW (Monday, 09 July 2018 08:06)

First time in a while i could get DH, and i tested it; so yeah is just as u say. Btw, i think before the new patch i did same thing but with BladeMaster, and cloak of flames worked well... or maybe that didn’t happened and i just remember wrong :P

wTc[Dragon] (Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:19)

@CTW about the Panda: you still get full xp for killing the hero but fix gold values since the strength of the ulti is also consistant and heroe bountys depend mostly on items and researches. About the DH all i have is a theorie: all units can only have the same buff once. That's why Cloak of Flames for ex do not stack with each other. So maybe an illusion applied the buff to a unit and since it can't deal dmg, the cloak doesn't work. And then prob the DH himself was not able to apply the buff since it was already on. If you use ur strat again try to split illusions and hero (please tell me if it worked cuz this is just a theorie).

CTW (Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:57)

Hi. I was with the DH, using the red cloak of flames. When the DH used Mirror Image (is that the name?) i noticed that the original DH didn’t make any damage with the fire cloak, nor the copies of him. Like if the enemies could get damage from only 1 cloak per player (the mirror images). A bug? :/

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 22 June 2018 19:52)

@CTW: Good question thats not something everyone would notice, No it's not a bug, its more about the "form" that they were in. Since the orginal form has items and is only 1 the math for the gold&exp you gain is diffrent from the "non hero elementals".
So ye its intentional :)

CTW (Thursday, 21 June 2018 08:30)

Hi. I just killed the Panda hero (he was in the wind, fire and earth form). When i killed the last of the 3 forms, I just gained like 80 gold, and he was like lvl 20. Later I killed the original hero, and i earned 300 gold. Is that a bug? :P

wTc[Dragon] (Saturday, 16 June 2018 14:14)

@hans1337 ofc im interested in balancing the map. First of all the Death Knight's ultimate is considered as summoned units, so they are dispellable with a Troll Mage for ex. It just so happens that some heroes have a prime time because not all skills can work lategame. If u just focus lavaspawns so the player has to move them, they don't attack and won't split. Against a Storm Reaver you can buy a Dark Mage to Purge the buffs (other ways to remove magic can be found in the Quest Log). Aswell you can find some tips there how to protect your base but just to mention some: dispell the scrolls before they get close enough to your base or use an invul pot with your base.

wTc[Dragon] (Saturday, 16 June 2018 14:02)

@CTW the issue has been fixed, Blizzard broke the Tinker passive ability, which Mark of the Claw and Talon are based on. In the fixed version you can find a hit about the new secret item in the Patchnotes.

@cyborg0 yesterday Agnet fixed an issue where people could not join the lobby, so maybe it's fixed now. Otherwise you need to contact him on our discord.

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:07)

@Fremor94: Hello, Well Sometimes the bot dont host on all servers and as you may know BNet & the others arent really synced anymore due to 1.29.
And you might have been looking when no games were ongoing, however seems the current (lobbies) arent showing as they used to.
Well none likes the leavers but part from banning them all theres not alot that can be done to prevent them from RQ or alike.

@cyborg0: Hey! humm thats annoying, perhaps you play on mac? IDK what the problem might be atm tho hopefully it will be fixed(or alrdy has).

@CTW: Sup, ye it might have atm I've not tried it myself but going to out discord might enable to you explain the problem(s) to wTc[Dragon] or some of the players that have played it.

And no I will not, you might be lucky in time to find it or bump into someone that wanna share it :P

CTW (Monday, 11 June 2018 07:53)

Hey! So i think with the new version, Hero Push has some bugs (i love this patch anyway lol, ty :D). Both Druids, their abilities have problems. I would love to give more details but my English isn’t that good hahaha.

PD: Can u give us a clue about the new secret item? >.>

cyborg0 (Sunday, 10 June 2018 09:57)

hi, the version 3.6.1 doesnt work... its always kicking back to the "battle.net-main lobby"

Fremor94 (Sunday, 10 June 2018 02:19)

Greetings! (I'm playing on version 1.27)
Understand with the bot. Why does not a bot host appear on the server of rubattle.net? Or does it appear but there are only Russian and Ukrainian players and on the site http://wtc.rusdota.net there is no game played? What kind of inconvenience is this?) I want to play this card and improve my experience.
And why the opposite of my nickname the flag of Russia, although I live in Ukraine http://wtc.rusdota.net/gameinfo/?rdr=1&id=89671
(this is of fundamental importance to me)?

And I would like to know how to complain about the leavers? And then the player who has only 4-10 games specifically chooses a player with a long experience of the game, and after the start immediately pours. Why is he doing this?

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 01 June 2018 16:50)

@Landsoul: Hello :)
Yes Baseaim is a playstyle that has been around for a really long time, and as you say there are several ways to prevent this.
Tip: F9 have some info related to most of the overall strats.
To have an inbuilt pot is an intresting idea tho. We had something simular long long time ago.


@Fremor94 Greetings to you too! :D
Well since 1.29 patch BNet & all non 1.29 servers arent linked anymore.
That might be why. or your only playing when people from rus/ukr are online xD


@hans1337: Well balancing & tailor after someones wishes isnt the same thing tho. As landsoul said you can stop it, so if you dont want the game to end like that then try not to die? Yes the DKs ultimate is kinda nice. And there is a way to counter it, if there wasnt it would have been patched away years ago. Yes I like this too, tho most seems to fokus heroes abit more then then should. Might be cuz they saw someone make it work 1 time and wanna be that strong too maybe :P You can do alot more then just pump gold into the hero :)
Some hardcoded changes in 1.29 has changed a few things tho.

hans1337 (Friday, 01 June 2018 15:12)

other than that, i really enjoyed playing the map so far and its cool to see that you can either invest in your summons or invest in your hero and still get far in the game. and its cool that the heroes and skills have good diversity

hans1337 (Friday, 01 June 2018 15:10)

@pale-jedi: your response to narali somehow comes across like you are not really interested in balancing? like, with the lavaspawns: shouldnt most skills be relevant/useful for the whole duration of the game, not have a "prime time" in which they are overpowered?
also, when you have tier 4 upgrade melee units, save up 25 controllables of them and use the different scrolls, you can just run in and destroy one players base. doenst feel like this should be the way a game ends.

one thing i had happening today: the arthas undead knight (whatever his name) was resurrecting acolytes (dunno if its his skill or the scroll) and just attacking the base. because they are invulnerable, there was no way to counter it and they just destroyed the base

Fremor94 (Friday, 01 June 2018 00:22)

Greetings!
Why now, when you play Hero Push, meet only with Russian and Ukrainian players, and Europeans - no?

For example, it's very interesting to play with players from other countries.

Landsoul (Friday, 01 June 2018 00:01)

Speed Scroll + Ghost Scroll
A popular strategy is to use both with a mass of saved up reserve units and simply right-click on the enemy base. If their base is not high enough or don't have invuln pot in base, then just lose the game in 3 seconds.

You can possibly react to it buy purchasing an invuln pot and transferring it to the base unit as quick as you can, but the game is very laggy during the time dozens of units are scrolled.

I would suggest adding an invuln shield ability to the base with a 5 to 10 minute cooldown, to give players an option to react to base-click.

Thanks to you for the map

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 21 May 2018 14:07)

@Narali: Ahh well thats nice to hear :) Youre welcome to play another 120+ games ;D

#1: Too strong compared to what?

#2: Well ye most things have their "prime" time I would say, alot depends on use tho.

#3: Yes reaver seems to be a really good move vs n00bs :P

#4: Thats good means more people have started to learn how one can play :)

#5: Ye that seems to come & go in waves tho, just cuz most people dont use a unit doesn't mean its not good xD

#6: Well that kinda depend but ye the demolishers isnt really the go-to in early games :P

#7: Ok ? Isnt the upgrades in main base too expensive for what they do then aswell :)?

TL;DR Well you can try and read/search for tips in F9 and just learn/test counters ;D

Narali (Sunday, 20 May 2018 20:25)

Heya,

I've been playing Hero Push for a while now (I think 120+ games or so) and noticed some things that maybe should be looked at. Some things happen too often or are just too frustrating to play against/too hard to respond to and some things are too weak/dont see any play.

- Ranged agility heroes with passive/auto attack ultimates are too strong. crit+metamorph Illidan also seems to fall there for the lategame.

- In the early game, Firelord/Ragnaros is too dominant with Lavaspawns aswell as Melee STR heroes with Firecloak

- Stormreavers are too cheap/lightning shield+rejuv too strong which also further enables firecloak melee heroes

- Scroll usage is too common. Speedscroll is way too cheap with 50 gold and the effect of the ghost scroll is overtuned compared to the much more expensive rezz scroll.

- Some mercenaries are overtuned compared to the alternatives. Kobolds/Priests/Wargolems/Guards every game while other units like Makuras never get played.

- Tower rushes are too hard to respond to for most people and demolishers are too expensive to answer one.

- In the research center, many upgrades are unused because they are too expensive for what they do. Masonry/Base armor, Creep/Summon upgrades and other race upgrades.


TLDR; Nerf the OP mercenaries that are in every game slightly, Make scrolls more expensive, Nerf ranged agi heroes with passive ultimates, make demolishers and some upgrades cheaper, make stormreaver+firecloak strats less efficient.

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 18 May 2018 22:45)

@Sertanis: Yes multiboxing is a problem however it cant really be fixed by blocking players from same IP.
And thanks for the name, hes alrdy known tho.

Sertanis (Friday, 18 May 2018 22:03)

Guys from WTC... PLEASE ensure that players can't play from same IP adress...they use the bug to join by same team, then from the beginning the one always left, and after the 3-rd minute, players have been defeated by the one who stands in the game...with the MILITIA....its not normal...i used to play this game for months and every time i see "Player 1 have the same IP adress like Player 2" i know that will be a waste of time...they are killing all of the fun....
The player that use that in last game was:
DivineReaper

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 13 May 2018 21:20)

@Yo Mi: Hello, Well ye its made & hosted by Clan wTc so "belongs" might be too weak word for it :)

To answer your question tho; Most wTc members are friends with eachother from before or after they joined up. & as learning from more exprienced players the newer members mostly prefer to play with older ones to hone their skills.

When it is an "elitist" Clan mostly players become better or are somewhat good before they join, so naturally they have a higher win ratio.
About it beeing boring for new/bad players tho well training or trying to join oneself might help ones odds?

Beeing a Clan afterall imply some favoritism towards other members. Not sure this is something that can or should be fixed.
Kudos for asking this in as you say "not a crying manner", can be annoying sometimes when pubs complain on US for hosting the map WE made for THEM to play xD

You're (and everyone else) is free to join us on our discord to hangout and talk about HP & FvG :) Invitelink is on the front page :P

Yo Mi (Sunday, 13 May 2018 18:45)

Hey! Well, I know that this game “belongs” to wTc clan, but I have to ask, why these people (wTc[name]) always go together in the teams? Obviously they will win easily and very fast, making the game a bit “boring” for the rest of us. So I don’t want this sounds like a cry, because isn’t a cry, only a question :P

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 15 April 2018 15:39)

@Hero:
1: Yes for the moment.
2&3: These are not bugs.

hero (Sunday, 15 April 2018 03:13)

bug report
1.can not sale item
2.can kill my own base
3.can destroy item

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 29 March 2018 23:15)

@Jibs not sure what one your talking about but yes theres several servers we host on.

Jibs (Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:34)

Any news about this issue? I can not find any servers with the map :(

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:23)

@upsell Well if youre unable to then ye seems bots not hosting there and your unable.
You can try whois the bot and see if it's there :P

upsell (Monday, 12 March 2018 00:31)

So, is it impossible to join through w3arena? I played often HeroPush and now can't join

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 11 March 2018 23:43)

@ex4etO
IF we host on w3arena atm then you might be banned. If not then it's just that the bot isnt on w3a atm.

ex4etO (Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:35)

pls why i no can join on the game ? i play from w3arena

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 23 February 2018 15:44)

@tec: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/bnet/topic/20761057709 + https://us.battle.net/forums/en/bnet/topic/20762046740 . After the BNet Patch alot of bots that hosted on BNet and other servers were crippled for awhile. After Blizzard fixed the problem from their side all we have to do is wait. At the moment the bot hosts but dont show the current gn on site as before (that will come back soon). And yes the bot host on more servers then ICCUP. :P

@mazellan: Well after the update we thought to do some minor updates of our own, everything will be back as before again in time.If you want to help out you're welcome to donate to the clan :)

@Hero Push: There is games but try to find it in the lists or /whois , if for the moment the bots not hosting it will be fixed in a little while.

Hero Push (Thursday, 22 February 2018 19:54)

No games in Lobby today???

mazellan (Thursday, 22 February 2018 14:08)

{Lobby games list is unavailable for this bot at the moment.} what's going on?! what time does it take to fix error??? i want to know it..

tec (Thursday, 22 February 2018 07:11)

Hi any idea why the bot isn't showing on iccup? Are there other portals besides iccup where its hosted?

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 13 February 2018 01:54)

@777AZZ Well minor details can be found in the stats just click on a players name to see games played. http://wtc.rusdota.net/stat_games/
The topic of adding elo or alike has been debated abit and we feel that it wasnt something we wanted to add/have.

777AZZ (Monday, 12 February 2018 12:52)

Can you make a rank for all players?

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 02 January 2018 06:25)

@hero
Yes playing on Mac/apple is mostly a bad idea for several reasons.
So nothing that we can do to help you part from maybe link you to windows or linux OS :P

hero (Monday, 01 January 2018 05:25)

Hello
When I build research,my computer(Mac Os) will crash.

Noobcn (Friday, 15 December 2017 21:46)

Hello everyone

I've been banned from HP (for leaving, bad bad I know), any one knows how to be unbanned ?

Thx

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 11 December 2017 01:49)

@John haha ok nice words from you. Well by clicking my name you'll get invite to our discord. In there we can talk abit more if you want. :)

John (Saturday, 09 December 2017 23:46)

Hi, just played hero push with WTC[JediMaster]. Really nice person. I think this is a great game. This and hero siege is about the only maps i play now! Was interested in learning how i could serve the HP game from my network at home. Been playing for quite some time. I am OK i think, but i guess compared to you guys i am a newb and would like to learn more about the game. could you direct me to the right information, or right websites for that? Would not mind joining your group, everyone i talked to from WTC seems to be good people.

my username is intelcorei5 so you can look up my stay ratio and all that. My computer hangs from time to time - thats just about the only time ill leave the game lol. Or unless my wife is yelling at me hahahaha.

hera77 (Thursday, 09 November 2017 11:29)

im sorry i want to play games
im korean
i can not speak english
sorry

Whidah (Friday, 27 October 2017 17:47)

Alright, tnx for the answer. i just wasnt expecting my hero to lose its auto attack completely.

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:24)

@Whidah Thats not a bug, if you read when you pick/get the Hero Naisha's bounce attack don't stack with orbs. And if you want to use an orb you have to use a MoD. or as you just saw you deal no dmg. :P

Whidah (Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:17)

Hello! i just found a bug in the hero push 3.5 that [FUN] is hosting. i played as Naisha(!?) and when i bought the orb of corruption (think it was) my auto attacks stopped working. even when i combined it to a better weapon my attack still didnt work. only on buildings xD. is that supposed to happen? dunno if it is a problem with the moon glaive skill and the orbs mechanic. maybe it was just this time, but it kinda ruined my game that time.

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 06 October 2017 17:00)

@Unluckyguy
So you think it's fair to kick people cuz you lost? Or what do you mean?

Unluckyguy (Friday, 06 October 2017 13:34)

[Stancho] and [Klopapier] are fuckin bastard ... we can't play for fun. I think it's a good idea to kick them kid ...

HOTPACK (Friday, 22 September 2017 09:44)

hello,

From a few days ago, cant get into HP games on the Rubattle.net server
Did u intentionally? Or is it an error?
imo want it to be restored as before, so more users can come in.

N-Gager_2.0 (Wednesday, 20 September 2017 23:00)

Guys, your bot doesn't host on rubattle.net. Please fix it)

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 29 August 2017 15:43)

@hello
Well yes dont play games on mac. it's not a good OS for games and seems it never will be cuz all games are made for PC or Consoles :P

So ye it's a know problem but not one that can really be fixed from our end.

hello (Sunday, 27 August 2017 13:19)

hello,

when I finished build research center.My mac will be freezed

HOTPACK (Sunday, 30 July 2017 06:57)

kk
ty jedi

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 30 July 2017 03:44)

@HOTPACK well you can host FFA via ent or mmh or alike.
Or ask any admins ingame to start FFA :P

But ye everyone plays with n00b allies from time to time unless you allways play with someone you know :P

HOTPACK (Friday, 28 July 2017 23:00)

Is it possible to create a separate 1v1v1v1 game room separately from existing game rooms?

Of course, the team vs. team is fun, but I would like to enjoy individual versus individual confrontation. In the past, on Korean servers, players enjoyed playing with their own ability without a teammate. It was a way for players to prove their abilities.
However, there are no HP players on the current Korean servers. I am sad now that there is no stage to encounter individual ability among players. I would really like it. If wtc makes such a stage
Also, if the team member is a noob, it is too bad that I can not exercise my personal ability.

to sum up
I want a stage where I can hit the players' individual abilities without a teammate. Is it possible?

I like HP very much. Even if it's impossible, I'll continue to enjoy HP. So just answer it comfortably.

HOTPACK (Thursday, 27 July 2017 08:28)

kk
ty jedi

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 23 July 2017 13:30)

@HOTPACK
-tips -info -patchnotes 사용 가능한 명령.
모든 것이 작동하지만 대부분 작동합니다.

HOTPACK (Saturday, 22 July 2017 16:43)

Most people do not check. Quest log

busy playing games.

i want to display it on the screen for easy viewing during the game. tip

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:32)

@hotpack

우리는 촉수에 대해서 알고 있습니다.

새로운 플레이어의 경우 항상 퀘스트 로그를 확인할 수 있습니다. F9

HOTPACK (Monday, 17 July 2017 07:19)

1. Phaseless Heroes The prize of the tentacles generated by skill is too high.

2. And for noob,
I hope the tip message will be periodically printed on the screen.
also allows you to turn tips on and off with commands.

I used Google Translator.
Please let me know if you do not understand.

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 15 July 2017 21:03)

@Syntek
As dragon himself said all we can do is wait.
you might be able to try and mail him: admin+wtc_bots@rusdota.net

wTc[Dragon] (Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:30)

Yes the high bounty is a bug and its been fixed like 2 months ago but agnet (owner of funbot) just refuses to upload the fixed version..

Syntek (Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:47)

Hero Forsaken One Ultimate that summon Forgotten One that spawn tentacles bug?
If you kill tentacle you get 106-146 gold. Is that a bug? If it is can you fix it?

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 01 July 2017 12:28)

@crowd is only a matter of time be4 its back to normal.

@equinox Well cuz there is none. Dragon has alrdy done tomutch to help people imo :P but your welcome to join the discord were there.
There is some fanbased stuff out there too but dont know alot about them.

equinox (Thursday, 29 June 2017 22:17)

hey man, fantastic game. I've looked everywhere and can't find a general forum for strategy/tips/etc. is there a channel on the server where your clan talks about the game? i've gotten decent but am interested in some of the more nuanced parts of the game (upgrades vs hero items and at what times, timing waves, contract mercs that best counter different races) Let me know!

crowd (Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:57)

could not*

crowd (Tuesday, 27 June 2017 22:24)

bot must be fixed... i could join him via the game name displayed here but found another name in game lobby which worked....

crowd (Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:42)

Website says Bot is available under name [fun] hero push *xyz, but if i try to join that game, game was not found...

crowd (Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:23)

Server again not available

crowd (Friday, 16 June 2017 14:07)

HP bot is again not working for europe...

wTc[Dragon] (Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:17)

It's intentional that Healing Spray works for enemie units for balance because it has no cooldown. On top it's the same in meele.

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 13 June 2017 15:32)

@crowd Thats odd, seems to be working now. Seems Blizzard will have another restart or whatever with BNet soon too so we'll see what happends after that.

@wTc[CrazyDots] Are you sure? + might wanna type this in our discord too dots... xD

wTc[CrazyDots] (Tuesday, 13 June 2017 10:26)

hey dragon, found a bug on HP with the chemist hero, the healing spray heals enemy troops, not sure if it was meant to do that?

crowd (Monday, 12 June 2017 20:14)

HP Bot is not working on europe.battlenet.....

wTc[Dragon] (Sunday, 11 June 2017 21:55)

Those items are secret and i won't take the fun away from you to experiment to create them

oron (Saturday, 10 June 2017 20:23)

Can I ask how to make the armor of the dragonslayer/Shield of the Dragonslayer?

wTc[Dragon] (Wednesday, 10 May 2017 14:05)

Yes it is intened, before the price was not calculated correctly. A big items cost is calculated this way: you add up the costs of the total stats you would have to buy from market place and then u add 1/3*cost so 400g*5 for 50 STR + 650g * 5 for 50 agi = 5250 * 1.33333 = 6999 = 7k, 5,5k is rounded

HOTPACK (Wednesday, 10 May 2017 08:00)

hero push 3.52

The valor and hood is 7000 gold, and the courage medal is 5500 gold. Is this an error? Was it intended?

HOTPACK (Wednesday, 10 May 2017 07:58)

hero push 3.52

The hell of the brave hood and hood is 7000 gold, and the courage medal is 5500 gold. Is this an error? Was it intended?

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 16 April 2017 14:00)

@Tankbuster_GER
I told you the answer when I saw you in the game after, but I can repeat here.
The Reason: You Desynced from the game.

The fun bot dont automatically kick desynced people. (as it in our opinion should) So rather then you and me playing in difrent game sates I just kicked you after like a minute of pondering about what to do. After you typed -afk, nothing happend on my end so then I decided to kick you.

And yes this would be abuse if you hadent Desynced.

So a tip when playing on the fun bot: Check F12 within the first minute of the game (scroll up if needed) and check if there is any Desync message. If there is plz inform the game and the player(s) who are in the gamestate with least people.

Tankbuster_GER (Saturday, 15 April 2017 14:01)

why do your admin Jedi Master kick me as team mate in Hero push after 3 minutes? I did no single mistake. btw i was the first making tier 2 an rushing my lane as first of all 8 players.
he should be more careful with kicking, that is admin abuse.
game at 04.15.2011 about 01:50pm

sry wrote it in FvG before.

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 02 April 2017 18:01)

wTc[Bit] is the one hosting HP part from the fun bots and other random bots.

Wct bot needs a votestart pls (Saturday, 01 April 2017 20:27)

Wct bot needs a votestart pls

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 02 February 2017 12:08)

Chat is allways shared, + The fun bots are not ours. and we've commented that aswell since we think that the people that are Desynced should be autokicked/droped like on all the other bots. But for some reason this has not been applied yet.

Yes a tip is to check F12 (chat) in start and scroll up to the start since it's one of the first messages (unless it happends mid game) and check if someone or some people got desynced. Game State #1 & #2 mostly and the one with most players are mostly the "real" or "main" one. sometimes on other bots it's not allways the one with the most.

So plz check & inform the player(s) it happend to and ask them to leave the game. or atleast be aware of it. since the players ally will have to control him. and thats semi-cheat/handicap or just hell depending on the players skill.

However the the problem itself it being handled to the degree thats posible. Like in most cases it's the players own fault that he/she got desynced. for example having played Castle Fight be4 Hero Push :P

So @ Start of the game F12, if Desyncs tell them.

Dax10500 (Wednesday, 01 February 2017 20:05)

Not sure if it's the desync call not being handled correctly, but I played 3 games today and all of them split into multiple concurrent instances of the map. The odd part was the chat was shared, so we could talk between instances, but two completely different games were occurring at the same time. Basically, green might look afk to pink, and pink might look afk to green, but they were both playing and chatting.

wTc[Dragon] (Tuesday, 31 January 2017 18:36)

In the Questlog in the quest How to deal with.. you can find all ways to reveal invisable units, for ex you can use sentry wards so the invis unit will be revealed and killed by ur units since the teleport has a long delay. Also you can protect ur base vs any sort of basekill with a potion of invurnerbility and workers behind on autorepair + beast and ghostscroll can be dispelled, makes the aim much harder. If you have further questions just wisper me on bnet (wTc[Dragon] @ Europe) or post it here.

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 31 January 2017 14:58)

Keep and eye out. for it ingame, if you see then you know then you can stop it easier.

criSils (Tuesday, 31 January 2017 09:50)

It's ok, I realised the troll can dispell. Another thing pretty op the me and others are doing is:
Camp creeps in base. Get master scroll. Get green shard. Get dark wizzard. Make 1 unit invis. Take to oponnent base and tp all ur units there. Enable master scroll and target bases. GG
Is there any way you could counter this ?

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 13 January 2017 13:18)

and most things that are unbalanced is beeing updated in the comeing versions. but that ulti has been there for a long time and alot of people have used it so it's not some "hidden" thing that only a few people know & use so if it really was toostrong it would have been nerf'ed and most stuff have minor changes from version to version.

So that might also be a good idea to add, what version your talking about :)

Noob (Thursday, 12 January 2017 20:47)

Pale Jedi too nice, Crisis obv noob never faced decent opponant, ez to kill noobs wh towering base, bs lvl 6 like u talking about, face real player and try that shit

Pale-Jedi (Wednesday, 04 January 2017 15:12)

@sils well anything used correctly is strong and everything ingame has a for several counters so it's not as op as you think, you just have to wait untill you face someone better then yourself :)

criSils (Wednesday, 04 January 2017 13:07)

My 2 cents, I own this game with death knight's resurrect dead ultimate.
I upgrade only my units damage then go to enemy base and use resurrect and focus base. I am able to kill one base per ultimate using invincible units.
You should nerf this ultimate as it is highly imbalanced in any game if used correctly.

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 03 January 2017 12:43)

Update: wTc[Dragon] is back. And we have a new Hero Push Version.

PaleJedi (Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:49)

Check if you like HP and have some knowlage about mapping
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/help-wtc-with-hero-push-footmen-vs-grunts.286606/

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 17 July 2016 21:54)

I've asked around for someone to take over HP on Hive.

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 19 July 2015 14:06)

as i said in the chat wTc has 3.3 version. but untill dragon says it's done we wont publish it.

phong (Sunday, 19 July 2015 10:44)

this map is amazing, but it has been 5 months since the last version, what happened ?? is this map dropped ??

Arrancar (Friday, 05 June 2015 18:30)

well you can add me on Hots, my name there is Arrancar88

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 01 June 2015 11:31)

From time to time not verry activly tho from what i've seen.
Think arra&detta play HotS tho no idea what their names are there :P

AYBABTU (Sunday, 31 May 2015 23:04)

any of the wtc members play heroes of the storm? i use to be in wtc awhile ago and was just wondering. also does a wtc[blacklocus] still play... might have been wtc[blacklotus]. cheers

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 21 May 2015 13:25)

About what?

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 07 May 2015 13:48)

Mostly.

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 07 May 2015 11:30)

What Now, English please? And if a ban request report to an wTc member or put it in the furom not here.

Wie lange dauert ein ban? = How Long is a Ban? Or am i wrong??

TO answer that it's 7 days.

Haraldalfons (Wednesday, 06 May 2015 19:30)

Wie lange dauert ein ban?

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 14 February 2015 12:05)

alrdy have you talked to anyone?
waiting for thanks? we suposed to thank you for wanting to join us xD

well go unless your on EU make an acc there and come channel Clan wTc and read my profile type /profile wTc[JediMaster]
then you know whats needed of you more or less.

said noris salem (Friday, 13 February 2015 18:03)

I would like to get in your clan already have over 150 game my nick is Sns_br'm waiting for thanks

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:21)

he stoped playing some years ago, so i doubt he'll look here. so unless you have something then his wc3-acc name to go on it's up hill from here on :P

Royal (Friday, 23 January 2015)

Has anyone seen Rawberry2 lately? Or Does anyone know a way to contact him other than emailing via this website?
Any clue will be much appreciated!

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 12 January 2015 22:45)

Well seen abit of the new work GJ and nicely done Mr.D (if its you dont really think someone else would update :P )

Pale-Jedi (Wednesday, 22 October 2014 21:38)

Well Im not really sure what to say miss haveing Hartog/Drag updateing map xD

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 05 October 2014 13:51)

ye some heroes with items are harder to kill then others sure but then most things are strong if feed. and i can't really do anything. Hartog dropped HP years ago and Dragon stoped totaly random 1 day for a long time ago so it is what it is.

DarthPlagueis (Saturday, 04 October 2014 14:23)

they are obviously op and people obviously have trouble with them and, lets put it this way.. you say if anyone gets one of those heros, must kill them early on or almost right away or as soon as possible, right? well... why do you think people think and say and try to do that? if measures to get people out of the game a.s.a.p. just because they get one of those heros, that should be a warning sign of something not being right with those heros.. you must go out of your way and really try to kill and take them out of the game right away because unbalanced hero.. doesnt that tell you something isnt right?

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:56)

So you what say we need to change it cuz you can't handle it :P?

DarthPlagueis (Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:40)

best solution is making them all like pulverize or something.. "fires arrows that do 180 damage to 3 other enemies" and not "fires arrows that do your damage + 100 damage to 3 other enemies".. make them not do your heros damage, they do their own preset damage, not increased by your heros damage.. thats all it will take to balance them.. that is really all that needs changing.. cleave can be a pulverize type ability, glaive can do the same thing, no hero damage, only preset damage, same with multishot.. and bam, heros are balanced

DarthPlagueis (Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:36)

invuln potion and bought creeps to dispell buffs and such and just a lot of ways to keep yourself from dying when you go hero.. tier 1 first, invuln potion, fire orb.. your team mate techs.. really, how do you kill the one hero'ing? bouncing glaive can kill your units and hero when you're not even close to the hero because bounces unit to unit like.. 7 times or something? forgot the number but still it hits a lot of units and they all die and get shredded.. cleave starts off weak but later gets to be really strong.. dark ranger's multishot, just up damage and maybe get health or a spell block and things and yeah, kills everything simillar to bouncing glaive, except things need to be in range, unlike the glaive, glaive can go out farther than your attack range.. too hard to kill people going hero if they know what they're doing and prepare and their team mate is also decent.. cant really beat them.. dark ranger gets the item for 50% attack speed and 50 damage and spell block, already strong enough at that point to farm and keep your numbers down, you wont have the mass to kill them.. trying to ghost scroll focus their hero early on each time they go to your base, 600g for 3 charges.. can also be dispelled.. another thing is... if they're in the opposite corner of the map to you.. you cant kill them, up to the other teams you're fighting.. why does it have to be such a rush to kill people who get certain heros anyway? that should mean somethings not right, i think.. why do they have to be 5x stronger than other heros? best way to fight them is a good single target hero going items too and focussing it.. but its a game of chance.. you might not get a good counter hero.. and in that case, games basicly decided already..

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:19)

1 thing i can agree on is Cleave, and that's a wc3 bugg/error/setning. Cleave ignore armor and therefor are the strongest passive ablility in the game. ways 2 see this, Your hero attacks a unit and all units around/behind die be4 the unit that the hero is hitting. Tho the cleave dmg don't give any other enhacements then pure dmg. so stun/orbs (part from fireorb splash) don't gain from this only the unit you hit.

multi/bounce don't have this problem. multi hit give only mod/orb for 1 unit and as you may know unless you still are new. bounce don't mix with orbs that's why you need mod with the orb to do some dmg. or the attack move don't work at all, so the orb efect is gone just +dmg. :)

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:13)

we'll mostly it's cuz they are n00b and allowed the hero 2 feed and live. later on when the hero feeded 250% of the other teams there is really nothing you can do 2 stop it.
that's why you try 2 get a strong army that can kill the hero so it can't solo a whole line/base and BK (BaseKill) the Loners base cuz in the first 30-40 min the one heroing don't have the time/gold 2 upgrade a good unit/base defence so he is easyely killed (50-150% easyer then his team8, mostly not allways) but late game when he got 5-6 repice items he got the time and money so it's abit harder then and prob 2 late.
that's why you need 2 kill the team that have a loneing hero in the first 2-25 min untill he is strong nuf 2 kills stuff cuz in start your units are way stronger then a hero and his milita/t1 units so they are easyely overrunned.

Thats why it can be said that it's n00b, not cuz you suck and you can't kill his/hers hero with 5k hp and 800 dmg but cuz you "ALLOWED" him/her 2 become that strong..

LOL all this info should make it harder 2 lone, it is mostly harder then playing normal but most people are 2 passive 2 stop someone that lones so the hero become too strong after a while 2 stop so they start crying afterwards :P

BTW sith scum ;) <3

DarthPlagueis (Tuesday, 16 September 2014 23:52)

yeah, seriously, dark ranger, and all multishot and cleave and everything that hits multiple targets, that some heros have, needs to be reworked and changed or removed, it ruins games, in the first 20 minutes of the game dark ranger can solo armies and clear bases... and then trolls about people being noob and everything... it is retarded and am getting sick of it.. one hero to decide games very early on and even more so later on

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 30 August 2014 17:12)

DR = BS nah that's not true it's stronger then most cuz it's mutlihit ye but without the items it's not that strong and late game 1 hero with items is like 1-3 units cuz hero have like 2-5k hp and 500 dmg, and unit 4-8k hp and 300-500 dmg so late game it's balanced and untill that you can kill the base of the one with hero and remove it totaly no more work vs it's "op" powers.

wTc[Apocolypse] (Saturday, 30 August 2014 01:21)

DR is bullshit.. needs to be seriously nerfed

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 29 August 2014 10:10)

DR is "stronger" then Naisha cuz she hits more units in total. tho they not op it's mostly about how you use the hero you got.
Try and stun/slow then and use more then 5 units 2 attack them and they'll prob die you'll see.

DarthPlagueis (Wednesday, 27 August 2014 00:22)

bouncing glaive on that huntress hero, and the dark ranger multishot, need to be reworked, they are rediculously overpowered when given the items and damage, melts everything, even things not even close to the hero

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 12 August 2014 14:04)

@Barlog: Humm intresting can you take a Picture of it and show in forum or something?
+ BTW this is HERO PUSH ;) FvG is the otherone :)

Barlog (Tuesday, 12 August 2014 08:37)

Report: 3.6.0 New version has Bug-When hero get agility amulet , it increase str too.

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 31 July 2014 17:50)

Removed cuz most new kid spamer spam all cmds they know so games start uneven teams.

and can't do anytning about the korean DLers or people who join and rejoin 5 times can maybe ban them or stop hosting on asian server but..
+ you can ask admins 2 start if you wanna start the game faster works aswell. you can even try and join us you been playing long time ever given it a thught?

Klopapier (Tuesday, 29 July 2014 11:57)

Pls reactivate the votestart... its ridiculous to wait more than an hour for full house while 75% of the player leave again 5 seconds after they joined...

Pale-Jedi (Wednesday, 18 June 2014 19:28)

Yes i removed that it's a sucky cmd that can make the map unbalacned if like 2v2v1v1 or simular just ask an admin if you wanna FFA / 2v2

Klopapier (Wednesday, 18 June 2014 17:11)

What happened to the votestart?
You need 10 Players to start a vote...

Hartog (Thursday, 05 June 2014 15:49)

Are u on mac?, cuz they will dc when they see certain importend icons

you_are_next (Thursday, 05 June 2014 15:23)

everytime when hero push finally starts i get a disconnect :/

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 17 May 2014 14:31)

if the boxes are Black/Pink it's not the map it's a verry common DC/Dezync error you have, easy way to get ridd of it is to restart the game.

ENT bots have these errors so if you play on them restart when your done and wanna play on another bot :)

Looked at the pic and yes it's the DC/Dezync error im talking about just restart and it's fine :)

TheShyroune (Saturday, 17 May 2014 14:14)

here the picture with the buge http://puu.sh/8PGbx/c1133a6007.jpg

TheShyroune (Saturday, 17 May 2014 13:49)

i hsve a buge with the start i see violette box between the base . when i delete the hero push data i have still the buge

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 01 May 2014 17:00)

There is alota heroes and you have not done all you can with all of them :P
who said you had to play hero there is alota units aswell ;)
most of them are balacned and are useable for difrent things but some are less and some are easyer to use.

items however do you got any ideas for something that we don't alredy have, or that we really need?

Dante (Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:25)

Add more heroes, and more items... it kinda boring to play with hero. Also they are not very balanced..

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 26 April 2014 12:28)

as i said "if it was you" compit never said who it was bit just turned on :P

TheGame (Wednesday, 23 April 2014 17:40)

Helping for what?
Bit went offline too long, so i decided to pay because i missed playing hp.
So i can say, that bit should work for at least 10 month.

Greetz

TH3_G4M3

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 22 April 2014 12:57)

Thx from Clan & all HPers to CobraPally for helping with bit.
(if it was you that is)

Hartog (Saturday, 19 April 2014 15:20)

Please remove the frost dragon hero its retardedly op... he can fight with his aoes forever with the cold sacrafice skill

Pale-Jedi (Wednesday, 05 March 2014 21:40)

Mr.D can you increese the Range of Dust that it efects it's you gota be like 200 range from a invi unit to spot it with it and then if they are not coppters you are alrdy in big risk.

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 10 February 2014 17:21)

"More or Less" Use your brain.

Just another noob. (Monday, 10 February 2014 05:35)

If i can map hack, is it allowed? If i can drop hack, is it allowed? If i can go down forcefully on a 16 year old girl, is it allowed too?

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 03 February 2014 15:51)

As i told you when you asked me, if you can do it it's allowed (more or less)

Delestror (Monday, 03 February 2014 08:48)

thank you for your answers!

wTc[Dragon] (Monday, 03 February 2014 04:56)

Dear Delestror,
there are many ways to counteract a basekill of any sort :
- some workers on autorepair
- Fortification Upgrades in the Research Center
- Bases can use potions such as healing and invenuablity
- Items like Ring of Protection also work
Especially the counter to Nether Dragons or any sort of air units there are Dragonhawks to ensnare the units before they get in range to attack your base.
Basekill was always suppost to be a way to win the game.
If you need more information you can find me on the european realm.

Delestror (Sunday, 02 February 2014 21:04)

Please, prohibit the instant kill tier white the air units.

Many people use mass dragon ethere for kill the main base and win the game easyli. this technique is for me 'anti-jeu'(anti-gambling), please find a solution to avoid this technique.

Thank you !

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 25 January 2014 14:19)

That's not normal in wc3 that's mostly LoL & HoN & DotA 2 stuff, but if you realy want that left click on hero pic and hold and you follow hero.

reBoot185 (Friday, 24 January 2014 08:55)

hi, how about an option to auto follow hero?

Maxwell (Friday, 24 January 2014 00:05)

appreciate the comments hartog

Hartog (Tuesday, 21 January 2014 12:38)

This isnt the place for that post in forum...

H_ey (Sunday, 19 January 2014 02:19)

Can someone please unban me from hero push! I don't know why I was banned

zetro (Tuesday, 14 January 2014 05:16)

Please can someone just unban me from hero push. Pretty please.

Hartog (Sunday, 12 January 2014 17:44)

Yeah its work to be done but they dont have to b changed u must just run them through a program to fix them

wTc[Dragon] (Sunday, 12 January 2014 02:26)

I followed Hartog style of making triggers so they shouldn't leak aswell.
Currently there's no time for me to change the icons and further i like them as they are.

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 11 January 2014 22:41)

Or just drop apple and fix a PC that you can play on ;)
jk but still im not sure how well mac work with games seems more like a big "smart phone" with some files and shit.

+ Desync errors can be picked up from other games so try restart be4 playing and most buggs will be dropped about from those stuff hartog talked about.

Hartog (Saturday, 11 January 2014 22:37)

The reason you sometimes dc when game starts is that you get a hero with a custom pic. also if u click the reserach center which contains custom icons u will prob dc

Hartog (Saturday, 11 January 2014 22:35)

Just read ur last comment. and this could probably be fixed if all custom icons were exchanged. Since the way some are made cause a crash for mac players. This can be fixed but it will take time and dragon has to put in effort :/

Hartog (Saturday, 11 January 2014 22:33)

Units that are removed always leak. Its a wc3 bug and can only b fixed by reusing dead units. I didnt bother implement that because its not neccesary as the leak isnt big enough for it to have a great effect in a long fucking time. Also my triggers dont leak and are written in vjass. Perhaps dragon made/changed some though

zetro (Friday, 10 January 2014 23:13)

I was banned 2 days ago. I have no idea why (honestly).

username- zetro.

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 10 January 2014 22:44)

@ zetro: When where you banned? Who was ingame?

@Max: Well most games work better on PC then on Mac?

zetro (Friday, 10 January 2014 06:03)

Hi, i got banned from wtc- hero push W3 if anyone can help me get unbanned it would be much help (I dont know why I got banned) Username - zetro

thank

Maxwell (Friday, 10 January 2014 04:56)

so after some research it appears that this is a universal problem with mac users and custom maps. no way around it =/

wTc[Dragon] (Monday, 06 January 2014 23:33)

We ve been always using JAZZ and Jedi is maybe right if you dont play on europe server that can cause lag.

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 05 January 2014 20:59)

max what server you use?

Maxwell (Saturday, 04 January 2014 19:31)

dope thanks for responding dragon. ok but i can play on heavily programmed games, i.e. warlock, and not disconnect. those are using much more sophisticated triggers than your map, and i never disconnect. i dont think your bud correctly removed all the leaks. there is no way all the units are being removed after death. switch to JAZZ to get it really smooth. either way thank you for this lovely map. ty tytyty

wTc[Dragon] (Wednesday, 01 January 2014 20:51)

The Spellbook got replaced because the items did not work 100% correctly. I'm already searching for a new use of orbs , if you have any suggestions/idears feel free to post them. :)

wTc[Dragon] (Wednesday, 01 January 2014 20:31)

Hey Maxwell, you are the first one complaining about leaks and as you already said your computer is sensetive to leaks and thats only a thing that you can fix. Further Hartog did rewrite all triggers in the so leaks are removed. The startlag will last since we need some big init triggers to make the map work.

Pale-Jedi (Wednesday, 01 January 2014 16:18)

The Start bugg is a normal Desync error in wc3 try and restart wc3 be4 playing :)

Maxwell (Wednesday, 01 January 2014 04:53)

Hey man. Great map. Let's talk about your leaks though. What exactly are you doing with the units when they die? Can you please remove the units from the game after they die. Your map has an UNBELIEVABLE amount of leaks. You have got to clean it up. But yeah, my computer is extremely sensitive to leaks. It always crashes after level 20 in your game because there is just too many dead units that were never removed. THere's also something peculiar happening with your spawn in the beginning. I have a slight chance of crashing then too. Check for leaks there too. Please let me know if you read this. I can't wait for this to be cleaned up internally. Thanks. (also just now i crashed when buying the final recipe for that cloak of flames item. check that too).

:) (Monday, 30 December 2013 20:51)

Yes I know that, but I still think, it should be some kind of item, which encourage players to use other orbs.

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 30 December 2013 13:27)

Orb book has been replased by a "real" spell book, 2k with some spells, (only for int heroes)

:) (Saturday, 28 December 2013 23:38)

Why spellbook has been removed? Maybe you need other recipes to encourage orb use.

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 28 December 2013 15:43)

Ye some heroes have messed up hotkeys :P
but aslong as you can click on it and it works you'll be fine :P

WarrioRage (Thursday, 26 December 2013 19:43)

Guys , did you fix the naga hero ? the one with mana shield + summon + typhoon , when you click A its not attack but its summon , and when you click w you don't summon....

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 16 December 2013 16:11)

@sdfg: Yes I know this is like this i have been telling him but he don't seems to care that he is 1/100 that can use the hotkey for it, but i know a work around: If you have a team8 that you can talk to. and have shared control with then if you use the shard in base then he see the "botton" in your base and can click on it :)

the only way i know how to use it if you have higher level base when all the slots are blocked/used.

sdfg (Friday, 13 December 2013 21:32)

fucking fuck couldnt use moonshard with main because no fucking hotkey for it and too much races to click on it fuck you man

Pale-Jedi (Wednesday, 13 November 2013 16:47)

Just for me so i remember.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EWbonj7f18

wTc[Dragon] (Monday, 04 November 2013 00:12)

All issues with the Sunwell Essence and Beatsly Rage Upgrades are fixed forever.

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 03 November 2013 18:22)

Race: Blood Elves
Upgrade: Sunwell

there may happend that your autosend units don't gain hp/mana from the sunwell essense upgrade for a time and soe units, why we don't know but it works most of the time. meanwile wTc[Dragon] will prob try to find and remove this bugg. if it can't be fixed it will be a "risk" useing that race but it works for 80+% of the time.

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 31 October 2013 14:08)

oh well. i can't stop you from sugesting it even tho we have been trashing this idea a few times alrdy it's open to all and a plase where to post Ideas :)

and it's not just attack/Defence you can do so mutch more ;) (if you have the skill and knowlage that is )

DarthPlagueis (Thursday, 31 October 2013 04:50)

Cross lanes, if one team is dominating the other team hes sending towards, there is still two teams meeting him in the middle for a fight, sure it opens for a lot of heros to fight there and for controllables, but, its just like the side lanes, except many more enemies, all in one area, different strengths, acts the same as a side lane because it technically is the same except for angle, path, and enemies crossing the lane. You push through the center point to the opposite corner of the map, you have siege, no one or nothing is keeping the other two teams at bay, they will come in to the center, and destroy the siege. Constant stream of units all converging in the middle. Only the team who is strongest, if they are noticably stronger and what not, can actually push through. The two side corners make pushing through difficult. Also a third lane can provide the natural unit mass to break through bases and controllable units easier, without having to wait for both sides to go the same way and meet the enemy at the same time, there will be a third lane that can speed up the process or defend. Both sides meet the enemy, but cant quite get through? third lane, if that doesnt help, you're not getting through. Makes defending slightly easier with one extra set of units spawning, but, also, theres more units to contend with coming from enemies. If some team dies, not too sure where the units would go next, because there will be a split, two sides, opposite ends. I can see how that'll be difficult to balance, eh.. In my mind that'll be the most difficult part to do.. Idea: for 5 minutes, spawned units for the center lane will head towards one side team, and every 5 minutes, focus changes, focus for spawned units in center lane will change to the other team, or maybe every 10 minutes,

because really, only really different part of that plan is the whole long hard fight in the center so often, good for ranged, possibly, but only difference is the fact its not moving side to side like one of the normal current lanes, would be focussed around the middle. Same number of units spawning and dying however on all teams, all units will die, except for the controllables, but, those can still die, and, whatever unit mass you manage to grow in the middle, they will die once they reached someones base, so, same number of units dying, just at different rates.. and encourages people to go for units and not heros so much.. reason it encourages units; you wont get enough kills from the middle without decent units.. less single heros farming off peoples controllables and heros.. but eh, just my idea.. personally i think that could be a fun thing to do.. sorta like an arena of armies and heros in the middle.. instead of the old back and forth, back and forth, back and forth...

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 29 October 2013 17:05)

ye all that what you said we alrdy thught about but seems more problems and unbalance with opening the middle for a bloody pit of heroes and controlable then to just leave it closed.

DarthPlagueis (Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:14)

hows it going Jedi? and yeah, not sure how well it could be added, but if it could be done, i think it would be fun, big party in the middle of heros and units, lots more carnage, all teams meeting there and providing a challenge and new dynamic to the normal back and forth fights of the side lanes. Could focus the middle, dont have to, can continue focussing side lanes, but, middle will provide a little more income, or equal income to current if all income is lowered a bit

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 28 October 2013 12:16)

Sup Sith, we have talked about that menny times and we think that would fuck up HP more or less + will be verry hard to add so units spawn and go to the middle line aswell.

DarthPlagueis (Friday, 25 October 2013 03:08)

Was thinking it would be fun and give a new element to hero push if the middle was open, and, lanes crossing in the middle, so along with the side lanes, there'll be two new lanes crossing in the center, everyone can see and fight eachother all together, four sides meeting in the middle, heros can go fight there too and such as well as the usual side lanes. would be fun in my opinion

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 01 October 2013 20:32)

wTc[Bit] is Disabled.
So it won't host Hero Push (HP) for now.

wTc[Bet] is hosting insteed of Bit
type: /whois wTc[bet] for GN

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:57)

Sup all HPers :)

so what do you think of the new : " Hero Push 1.99 " version? ( Made by: wTc[Dragon] )

what have you found that's new?
do you like the new orbs and there Special Efect with the Spell Book?

anything tell your experience and ask your questions here :)

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 24 September 2013 15:11)

@three6s: Type "/whois wTc[Bit]" and it show you the GN (game name) you can also come to channel Clan wTc (EU-Northrend) and type "-games" if wTc[Stealth] is in channel.

hs.m.kang (Monday, 23 September 2013 10:39)

Hey three6s :)
cant find u these days :P
whisperme again wen u see me :D

cant say its not annoyin havin to go thru redundant find channel, click typer, type /f l wtc[bit], custome game, click type, type hero push # u kno

u gotta see this.

sim (Saturday, 21 September 2013 18:56)

wtc[amb] afk thx!!!

three6s (Saturday, 21 September 2013 16:02)

Hey hs.m.kang! good to hear from you!

I would love to see a script that shows what the game number is at. The constant refreshing and searching for the game is anoying.

Pale-Jedi (Monday, 16 September 2013 16:14)

@Kang: it's all about the time of the day, most HPers are the same 50 that play some wTc some koreans few americans and some EU so thay play the time they are on wc3 :P
yes sometimes it can be slow, but a normal time to wait is like: 5-30 min depends there is lota DL-Leavers and some join and wait 1 min then leave.

and from wTc I say: Your Welcome :)

hs.m.kang (Monday, 16 September 2013 12:30)

hi three6s :) lets play together nextime we meet again :)

wTc, hero push gotta seriously crowd up smhow, its takin 2hours justo start..
perhaps u could simplify the alignment of the hiring units to unify the warriors, or sth..
anyhow, plz make notice that it takes too long for most players to jus enjoy the game :)

thanks for all the efforts to share fun w us wTc. :)

three6s (Wednesday, 11 September 2013)

The blade master skill, where he has a chanse to spawn shadows has to be nerfed. it is to strong at a low level.

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 08 September 2013 20:30)

@Sin: sometimes like every 4rth day - everyday when he is here but when he is not active for a reason i don't think so he have been moveing so kinda inacvite for a wile.

Sinizter (Sunday, 08 September 2013 16:22)

Potm is crap. Shouldn't be like that. Bring in anti-magic pot, not sure if exists currently, too many shops to find it :S, only reason that ult was any good was cuz of that item. Owls suck, archimonde has 3.6k hp summons with landing stun and owl has crappy mana burn. I remember when compit added owls that could transport units, wasn't great for fvg, but hp maybe? Would be awesome being able to land in melee from behind enemy push or kill those tanks or w.e. Whats wrong with firearrows for her? Also why is there 2 illidan heros, with same ult and almost same every other skill.

Agreed, infernal machine ruins game, much too cheap for the dmg it does OR reduce range to almost melee/300 or so with same dmg and everything else. This makes them not worth it to save for early games, cuz they can't tank, therefor die easily w/o melee and base aiming much harder. Maybe add a "second page" to base options. for that moonshard issue.

Does Dragon even check forums.

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 08 September 2013 15:08)

@Xcre: yes Troll mage 450.

@Sus: It's Not a bugg it's a Missplaning/minor fail of useage - it's not just orcs it's with all base have not nuf slots in the option so when you use it it is "hiden" Dragon -: "Use hotkey T" i have tryed myself but still don't work he say it's due to custom hotkeys but it's not that it's something else strange.

@Mr.D: Maybe take away the Change Race ability after T2 ? or something?

sushie (Sunday, 08 September 2013 12:10)

Hi, maybe found a bug. While on t4 (orcs), bought moon shard, put on base, used item, so that moon fall is available and... there is no option to activate it. Pls check it.
greets sushie

Xrement (Sunday, 08 September 2013 00:36)

Well think ima quit playing hero push so sick of having nice army build goin and other team saves up infernals machines brings everything so they push u in just far enough two aim base isn't fun when it happens and happens all the time doesn't even matter how many workers u have when they have full group of infernals. Or invurneble potion that last 5 sec. Is biggest down fall to this game I have to say. tc all

Xcrement (Saturday, 07 September 2013 15:23)

Which unit from creep camp can mass dispel magic? or is it an item u get haven't seen it yet and ty just hate having good game goin or waiting 20 mins for a game to start then base attack with ur full army there. Thanks for info though

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 07 September 2013 13:58)

Base aim have been part of the game a long time but only works with control able or and emptybase (= enemy units toofar from yours so you attack the closest thing and thats the base, or you have stromed the base and there are no units left only newly spawned)
Master scroll aim with units was easely stoped by useing disspell magic and a invurneble pot in the base the more T and armor upgrades (Reserch Center - Fort) the harder to kill the base mostly T0-T1 can be killed fast early and late game T2-T3 is the line it works but need more units and more speed, T4-T5 is mostly safe from this you still have to stop the aiming units, Now with the New tanks Epic Chaos DMG and so long range that they have a wall of units blocking their base aim it's hard to stop them best way maybe mass workers and repair and maybe use a speed+ghost (or full Master Scroll) to send some units fast between the wall of units to the tanks (big risk but can work).

to set a limit that makes base Invurneble untill there is less then some numbers of units will be hard and not nessesary better to have stronger base upgrades that can match the OP Tanks with their Range and 300-500 more or less Pure Chaos DMG a few (6+) can easely kill anybase at anytime so my thught on this is that they were thunht of as Late Seige wile the 2500 catapults were early/mid game, so maybe increes the cost for these epic base killers cuz their main thing is to kill towers/bases so there are verry good at there primary fonktion, So maybe more cost to them or stronger base upgrades (armor and Life from Fort and T upgrades) or have them "Unlocked" at T4-T5? it would stop the "saveing strategem" in HP in a way if we put T recuirement on units so it's a Major change.

In anycase it's all up to Dragon (the Map Maker of HP's Ice Age) in the end.

Xcrement (Saturday, 07 September 2013 13:34)

Hey Dragon and Jedi my friend and I love hero push awesome game but when u have nice army build goin and they push in just and little and base attack with infernals machines from way back or just rushing in with master scroll and base attack to this game makes peeps not wanna play me and my friend where talking and is there a way u could do something so they have to kill off some of ur army before base attack?

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 06 September 2013 18:46)

this way is faster, + you can just takes longer time and it's big risk that you don't find it :P

hs.m.kang (Friday, 06 September 2013 16:16)

yea, i guess from now on i cant use custom game list to join the game directly :P

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 06 September 2013 13:56)

Sup Kang, tip: /whois wTc[bit] and it tells you the gn, so when you have it you type in the game name and enter and poof you joins the game unless it's full :P

hs. m kang (Friday, 06 September 2013 02:54)

shooott.. im sorry, i see that i was on the asia server when i couldnt find the bot :P sorry :)
great day guys :)

hs.m.kang (Friday, 06 September 2013 02:51)

hey watup guys. thx so muchh for this incredible game you know :) i really appreciate all the love and efforts in this game from you guys. however im having some troubles playing this game. 1) nowadays i cant find the Hero Push bot from the custom game lists. one day i waited almost over thirty minutes and could not find one. the filter was on for all, so i cant see where the problem is. 2) i guess u guys are putting extra butts on improving this fantabulous game, but i see that there are more bot off-lines these days. truly its only that i want to play this game more often. but again, i guess u guys are putting extra hands on this, so thanks :)

anyways, Hero Push is the game i really only play, and i see that there are many others like me, so, again, thank you, and God bless :)

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:20)

@Sin: ye toggys ver was smaller laess heroes units items and towers. so it's way more posible way to play simular to FvG where it's no limit but there is still things you need or you end up dead. cuz it's small teams :P

Sinizter (Friday, 30 August 2013 16:30)

Not a bad game dragon, not too bad at all.. First game impressions. I remember Hartogs ver being slower, idk its been a while for me. May play again and report something more reliable.

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 29 August 2013 16:56)

Keep the Mid closed it has allways been closed, and as you said Mr.D if we open it will be more problem, + you can alrdy meet the 3rd team just dominate and you can send passt units thru the other bases.
try send all units to follow hero take a speed scroll and ghost scroll and just run passt the base to the other line and poof you are there aswell but you maybe have to fight 2 front fight :P
this was more usefull when you were able to build towers in mid lane so you were able to make tower bases on the other 2 lines and push down the other 2 lines with auto units and reinforce the towers with controlable :P
funny shit you domninate whole map :)

sushie (Thursday, 29 August 2013 16:52)

@wTc[Dragon]
yes, I already realized that. But still when using infernos there is stun + infernos summons + their immolation which makes 3 things with one spell. I´ve only noticed that this can have a big influence at an early game. As Pale suggested it might be fair to remove stun from this spell at early levels.

wTc[Dragon] (Tuesday, 27 August 2013 20:11)

I did already think about to add something to the middle but it will cause more problems than we would benefit of.
Reasons :
You would be able to send a unit to the taverns and be able to chose of all 16 heros.
A team could be able to harras 3 and would be unkillable with that gold advantage.
While using ghostscroll units would get stuck.
There is no way to make a good conection of the 4 additional lines.
There are some more but i think this is enought.
Currently i'm searching for some Item idears if you have any feel free to post em.

Dk313 (Monday, 26 August 2013 22:55)

Good afternoon to all. So I made a post in the FvG - Ideas/Bugs section a very long time ago about adding the middle lane as a meet in the middle kind of thing that could be occupied and used to send units from. This was when there wasn't a separate section for hero push. Unfortunately the post I made seems to have been lost and the original idea/suggestions with it. At the time of making the post Hero Push had just started and was being updated by someone else. Now I hear it's got a new guy and thought it would be a cool idea to throw the suggestion back out there even though it was turned down the first time.

Basically just a lane that goes to the middle but the only thing that goes down it is a third set of tier units from each player only & heroes (no Mercs). Giving you a third avenue to worry about rather than just pushing lanes back and fourth all day. It would also allow you to meet the other players in battle giving the game a different feel.

That's pretty much it. Enjoy.

wTc[Dragon] (Monday, 26 August 2013 19:24)

The Chaos Rain is a bit of a multi spell it deals damage stuns and you get summons.
In exchange the Infernals are pretty weak compared to other summons inculding thier burn.

sushie (Monday, 26 August 2013 13:40)

@Pale-Jedi:
exactly ;) a bit too powerfull

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 25 August 2013 13:25)

@Susie: You talking about Kel'Jeden right? his Rain of chaos with stunning inf with imolation?
ye i thught it was a bit op aswell seems like better make that as a kinda ulti/take away the stun

sushie (Sunday, 25 August 2013 12:54)

played two times new version against hero demon lord. i got a feeling that its standard abilities are too imba strong in the beginning, or am i deluded?

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 23 August 2013 14:43)

Power = attackspeed & life

wTc[Dragon] (Friday, 23 August 2013 14:13)

Summons use the Power Upgrade in the Research Center
Transmute is fine because u kill one unit and get the same gold that any other ulti would make by kills and u can still kill the units the other ulti couldve killed. Also it can kill instantly high priority targets like a Kodo or a Troll Mage for example.
Chemical Rage makes the Alchi to the most fast attacking unit ingame.
Healing Spray has no cooldown u just gotta buy him mana.
Acid Bomb reduces the armor of enemie units so the damage of it and attacks deal more dmg to the unit.

sleep (Friday, 23 August 2013 13:48)

I would love to see summoned units gain dmg and armor from uppgrades. The goblin and ogre hero needs to be buffed, his skills suck and his ultimate is not worth it. I would love to see a big buff the his ultimate.

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 16 August 2013 20:44)

xD that't 6.6 more times dmg then the unit attacked + ignore armor

Hartog (Thursday, 15 August 2013 17:16)

NO 666% = 6.66 times dmg of normal atk...

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 15 August 2013 13:39)

@toggy: how can you have 666% clave? you mean 66% ?

Hartog (Wednesday, 14 August 2013 20:40)

Me very mad wat happen to Hero Push. Me no like Dragon at edges, me no like ice too. Plz fix and make Hartogs sexy unit 666 hp 666 reg 666 dmg 0.666 atk cd 666mana 666% cleave

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:26)

anyway try waiting/do other stuf for like 10 sec then go bk to pick hero.

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:20)

Alkron are you herm?

Alkron (Tuesday, 13 August 2013 14:55)

Bug:

I opened the Allies menu and while I had it open, the game did the random hero draft. When I closed the menu, the only thing I could click was the hero icon. Couldn't click anything else on the screen (except the top bar menu options).

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 13 August 2013 12:57)

DK ulti can kill mostly anything depending on the dmg the DK have upgraded and the units he raise.
and first 2 level are strong nuf to kill base. you just gota know how to stop it you sooner or leater you die from it.

wTc[Dragon] (Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:03)

no AP mode it would ruin the game ( imagne every game a demonhunter with items or endurance + command aura )
Deathknight ulti will last as it is , because u can dispell the units with the troll mage for ex and the gold you payed u get back cuz dispelled units give gold (lets say each unit 20g*24=480)(first 2 lvls aint strong enought to kill a base)(dark mage can also be used (purge))

matex (Monday, 12 August 2013 15:07)

i suggest remaking the deathknight to, reanimate units and send them to finish of your building is the cheapest tactic of them all. doesnt matter if it can be countered or not but that is just a retarded move.

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 10 August 2013 18:12)

All heroes have it uses, all are balanced(mostly it's still BETA) so it's about what hero you are able to use, some are stronger at start and some are weaker and some have more use of items then others.
but if map-developer: wTc[Dragon] thinks AP mode is good idea he will add it untill that it's like it is :)

matex (Saturday, 10 August 2013 05:39)

people vote for a mode, doesnt matter if it is balanced or not. AR also is unbalanced because your hero could be below average. if the majority votes for it where is the problem? not everyone picks the same heroes every time incase ap is played.

Pale-Jedi (Friday, 09 August 2013 16:55)

@sleep: to open mid we have thinked about but seems it's best to leave it closed, and 3v3v3v3 will enver happend for lota reasons.
@matex: AP will be too unbalanced there is AR with 1 -repick / Singel Draft = pick 1/4

matex (Thursday, 08 August 2013 00:29)

i'd love to see an all pick mode just for the heck of it, if modes are voted then it is no problem if the majority wants it.

sleep (Wednesday, 07 August 2013 12:02)

Why not add an extra lane that goes directly to mid from all bases. It would be fun playing 3v3v3v3.

Pale-Jedi (Saturday, 13 July 2013 13:03)

so now when Hero Push 1.58B is out i hope we start to use this again :)

Puckad2 (Friday, 28 June 2013 10:41)

Dear sushie, You killed yourself as soon as you had gotten an army in your base and then laughed about it. You deserved a ban.

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:21)

In the Honor of clan wTc, wTc[bet] is now hosting Worm War (12) for a small time,
Host: wTc[JediMaster] Bot: wTc[Bet] GN: wormTastic #XX

( XX = number of the game )

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 26 May 2013 11:05)

sometimes the Autohost gose out of the numbers the root set up like 100 then after a 100 games it stopes hosteing so then you gota put on autohost again or ask an admin to host manualy (i do that sometimes)

/f a wTc[bit] - you now have it in your friend list so you can right click and press whois

/whois wTc[bit] - a manual CMD that shows where the bot is and what gn.

+ if you wanna visit the clan channel you ned to be on EU server - Northred and type:
/J Clan wTc (when your in lobby chat) that will transfer you to the selected channel

TheShyroune (Saturday, 25 May 2013 18:43)

What is with hero push ? When can i play it again ?

Thx :)

Pale-Jedi (Tuesday, 21 May 2013 09:37)

sup Manno When are you comeing bk :D?
Sin vote is on. and thx to me your in it :P

Sinizter (Saturday, 18 May 2013 10:27)

What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Mannoroth[AD] (Saturday, 18 May 2013 07:26)

*it's a She*
:D
http://i.cdn.turner.com/asfix/repository/8a25c3920e1ded1c010e1edb838d0052/12oz_ep005_02.jpg

Salute to all

Pale-Jedi (Thursday, 16 May 2013 11:17)

@Sushie: well firt of all Im sorry for that puckad has been ass-holeing again. I bet it was Hermeseus he played with and from what i know it's a She, (btw puckad = Idiot/Fool/Dumb in Swedish) from what I know by Reading your text it's unfair by him to act like that. and it was not TK it was Suicide and that's just borring no rason for ban, + when in game did you to it? and yes we all wTc-HPers know that Hp is not as popular as it once was so games take longer to fill. well it's a Game and Vs wTc-members you mostly lose cuz these are our clan maps and we like them so we are good at them. and some maybe unfair players but banning people is not allowed we are curently in a big Debate about that Problem and soon I hope that we have more strick and understandable rules cuz for now it's like its everyone for themself so some may go over the line.
and yes every map with leavers get unbalnaced in one way or Another cuz it's based and made for FH or the mapmaker would not make it for that number of players.

// Have a wormTastic day yours. wTc[Pale_94] -> wTc[JediMaster]

sushie (Wednesday, 15 May 2013 17:54)

I know I should use forum but i m not interested in registrating. So here is message with special focus to puckard2 and his/her admin colleges:
I realized that´s the second encounter I made with which ended in banning me for the reason of teamkilling. But what should I do if don t want to continue the game because it WAS OBIVIOUSLY CLEAR that U and ur teammate won the game already!!!!!! Just wait and see how ur units are slaughtering us all????
So as I learned from other case, an instant leaving of the game would always result in a BAN and since I THOUGHT that killing my Homebase should avoid the case, I did it. So do not blame for this lack of GAME BALANCE LEAVING problem!!!!
I hope you and also some of your other admin colleges realize that all your behaviors with teammates (like last time as U forced me to play the game in the manner you wanted to play, not tolerating any variation) and also with the other players (like this other admin whose name i have forgotten and who is always swanking in the chat room previously before a game is starting about how long it will take until (s)he will finish all other players ) are not really helping to publish this game more to the WC3 community which results sometimes in long waiting periods until the game will start. So far that´s all I wanted to tell ya, cause for me the game has a good gameplay, but it could be much much much much better without such actings...

Pale-Jedi (Sunday, 21 April 2013 20:31)

HUmm gosu you talk about FvG or HP? and what are you talking about?

thebest-of-gosu(korea) (Saturday, 13 April 2013 16:54)

change plase 2.9 version
because satry hero charm try inferno summon unit reverent

so i have 8 inferno -.- this is fucks......... 2.9 version revise please

Juicers Reviews (Thursday, 11 April 2013 20:26)

This is a great blog post! Thank you for sharing!

Pale (Tuesday, 09 April 2013 19:26)

I'd bet he mean 24 Mars XD

Sinizter (Tuesday, 09 April 2013 16:47)

24th of April seems legit.

Pale (Tuesday, 09 April 2013 14:08)

Good moi that you shared this :)
(did not look the link)

wtc[Moi] (Tuesday, 09 April 2013 00:29)

Hi Members/ Hi Community
On 24 of April we did a Hero Push tourney with wtc-members. the Problem is that we saved only 1 replay ;-) . If u still want to watch it follow this link.
http://www12.zippyshare.com/v/30074320/file.html
Have Fun!

Pale (Monday, 08 April 2013 14:13)

*Frendly Gasp* Aaaawh :O

thebest-of-gosu (Wednesday, 03 April 2013 05:30)

battle roar!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pale (Tuesday, 26 March 2013 14:49)

btw Im wTc[Pale_94] Former Palestine_94

Pale (Tuesday, 26 March 2013 14:36)

@ monrow. Yes i think i've asked about that earlyer on here or in forum :) so y i think that may work but IDK i have not seen in ingame.

Monrow (Monday, 25 March 2013 21:03)

@Pale what about add an extra spawn unit for both lanes? I think that could make it fair and balanced?

Pale (Monday, 25 March 2013 13:05)

@ #116 yes there is a Balanceing system but it's hard to get it fair if the 1 player gives too mutch the others will feed of him and if he gives too little will be ufair cuz he have less unit and then aswell give less. and if he gains littel he is doomed and if too mutch he will pawn. so it depends on the player skills and when in the game his/her team8 leaves/DC

@#117 Sup Korea :D you speak english now :)?

thebest-of-gosu(korea) (Sunday, 24 March 2013 00:26)

tremble disappear doom has come to this world

Monrow (Thursday, 21 March 2013 21:58)

Hey I was wonder if there could be some kind of benifit for players that have had a dropped ally (by error) in game or someone has left. Because it really is unfair 4v1 or 2v1 in a situation like that. There is no chance to win. I honestly think there should some kind of ballence in the odds.

Thanks.

Pale (Monday, 11 March 2013 21:05)

@ 114
maybe someone banned you :P?

Epervier (Sunday, 10 March 2013 13:57)

play with the bot wtc since weeks and since yesterday i can't enter into the maps of the clan. Can someone explain to me why ?

Sinizter (Friday, 08 March 2013 21:44)

Ill look into it

sushie (Friday, 08 March 2013 14:02)

@Sinizter
luckily I had the last replay of this game saved and watched it now. My apologizes for wrong accusation of kicking CriminalMindz by Srutututu. Through the message board of battlenet it looked like that, but in deed CriminalMindz left the game and instantly Srutututu put him/her to the ban list (which I misinterpreted as kicking). BUT and thats the point CriminalMindz left the game because he was placed by Srutututu to some other teammate shortly before the game began. But he did not like to play with that one and THAT was the reason why he left (and got banned). And shortly after this, I also left ´cause Srutututu started this Tower-Terror tactics which I mentioned before and which I do not appreciate.

Sinizter (Friday, 08 March 2013 12:02)

And i mean if he kicked noobs from other teams, its alright i reckon. Noobs in hp can ruin game worse then kicking ppl. 1 team gets fed, game is decided in 10-20 mins and game gets boring cuase winning team drags it on and farming till autosends/heros can kill everyone.

Sinizter (Friday, 08 March 2013 12:00)

And ive played 200 games with him (hp), something he wouldnt do.

Sinizter (Friday, 08 March 2013 11:59)

Hes telling me, he hasnt kicked anyone (doesnt know how)

sushie (Friday, 08 March 2013 11:56)

@Sinizter
I meant from other team not urs ;) (which makes 2 against 1 )

Sinizter (Friday, 08 March 2013 11:48)

Kicking teamates, advances you ingame?

sushie (Friday, 08 March 2013 11:00)

Pls remove or limit tower usage to ur own tier area. Its really boring and not helping the gameplay (also for attracting new players to the game) when such nerds like Srutututu confusing Hero Push with Tower Wars.
Btw check also if Srutututu is abusing his admin state. I encountered recently that s/he is first swapping and then instantly kicking the team member so that s/he is in advanced in the game!

POOPDIK (Sunday, 03 March 2013 05:50)

ya im the one who found the ghost glitch. i was just playing as the char one day and found that if you repeadly tap s and the ult skill your stats will rise to any number you would like btw sigisixx u suck lol.

sigisixx (Saturday, 02 March 2013 18:18)

y but u are hosting the map, and version 2.8.5 was created by u when im not wrong =)

Pale (Saturday, 02 March 2013 17:47)

@ #102 m8 wrong page this is HP lol

sigisixx (Saturday, 02 March 2013 15:58)

I saw 2 times a bug/cheat in the FvG 2.8.5 version.

A player bought a hero named "Ghost" and after lvl 6 he could use the fourth ability whole time.. so he had in 10 seconds over 1000 dmg, 1000 strenght, 1000 agility & 1000 int... ive got an replay, and tried figure out how the bug/cheat works. But didnt find a way.. maybe u can check it. If u need the replay ill could sent it to u, or write me ingame, my nickname is sigisixx.

hplover (Thursday, 28 February 2013 21:15)

Hero push is fkin awesome no homo

Mannoroth[AD] (Sunday, 24 February 2013 19:22)

There must have been some reason... But we can try.

If people don't assume noob opponents, everything will look differently.

Sinizter (Sunday, 24 February 2013 08:34)

Why not give full control to the teammate who stays when someone leaves? Solves 2 issues
1) This.
2) Those who leave before we can kill base for $.

Anyways what effort in killing someone? Killing ppl is easy, they either leave when you have been harrassing/pushing them and when u empty their base with mainly autosends, they leave(this takes effort and is rather annoying when they leave) or u use master scroll (No effort).

Idk this may have been said ages ago but w.e.

Mannoroth[AD] (Friday, 22 February 2013 18:59)

@ Hartog
And who you reward instead?
The balancing is between keeping interest and chances of a solo player and making his team a little less powerful than before. This can be achieved by filling units gap of SP. Single player will still be weaker, having only 1 Hero and 1 Base.

If we don't want SP to have chances, we should defeat whole team upon any base destruction.

But now it's reversed: if you didn't kill both bases and SP didn't leave, you have problems.

Mannoroth[AD] (Friday, 22 February 2013 18:39)

@sushie
You have clear communication issue.

Hartog (Friday, 22 February 2013 18:37)

The problem is that that isnt the problem. Its sposed to be that way if 1 team kills 1 player they shud be rewarded for their effort no? Leavers are unfortunate but it is the way it is.

sushie (Friday, 22 February 2013 18:25)

puckard2 banned for the following reason: we were playing in a team and he was all the time telling me what to do. But after a while I got bored of this and so told him/her that I leave because it was not fun for me to be a like Robot and do whatever (s)he wanted me to do ... and now got banned for that? Sorry but is this game called "HERO" PUSH or "DO WHAT THE F*CKING ADMIN TELL U HAVE TO DO" PUSH?

Mannoroth[AD] (Friday, 22 February 2013 16:17)

So, you are saying that if Map accepts zero value for cooldown, heals will be able to follow each other with no delay and that's how internal version is expected to work?

The problem of solo players has never been in income but in lack of units. While opponents do suffer from cut income and BK danger.
http://fvg-fourm-pl-am.2294401.n4.nabble.com/Ideas-tp3642194p4641407.html

LoL, how dare you spend time on self-invented issues and keep talking about how tiring HP fixing is!

Hartog (Thursday, 21 February 2013 21:37)

I have actually fixed solo players players income in my internal versions its just that I got so bored of makin hp that they havent been released yet. And i was talking about the duration of the heal buff that prevents other heals.

Mannoroth[AD] (Thursday, 21 February 2013 18:28)

@ Hartog It's post-heal immunity cooldown ('being healed'), not spell duration. Spells are instantly cast. Frankly, I see no problem here. If a unit / hero happens to have been healed by Priest and cannot be healed again (by either Priest or Seer) right after that - it's just a nuance like many other. Should be kept in mind, not corrected, imho.

@ Oxi I suggest you read more forum. Solo concerns have been discussed and, afaik, there has been no change in gold received after ally's departure. Income was allegedly adjusted upwards making single players a huge trouble to adjacent parties (less feed, heavier hits).
I always criticized Hartog's approach to solo solution, but we are the only two people bothered and he has more authority :D

Oxi (Wednesday, 20 February 2013 23:34)

It seems to say unable to heal target as they are all ready being healed (in some description) you may have fixed it i havnt tested in a while as i stopped using priests for that reason i will test it in the game im waiting for now ^^. Also When your teammate leaves you receive a small amout of their "worth" but after that you still gain the same amount of gold per kill one person of a full team, so the best thing to do is leave, you will inevitably loose as you gaining half the income and are still limited to 5 "merc" cap.
I suppose this isnt a big issue, but as its just happened to me now I left straght away knowing that it was pointless to stay and once yesterday (i fought till i was flooded by double the unit cap I could possess) maybe if you received 3/4 of a full teams income would be fair and not overpower you early game.
hope im giving helpfull info rather than it seem like moaning :)

Hartog (Wednesday, 20 February 2013 19:09)

No heal can only be used one at a time during their duration. But atm the Priest heal duration is 0 so i don't know if its different in the public hosted version or 0 wasnt accepted as a value(happens sometimes). Seer heal also has a duration of 0.

And auto spawn priests default with inner fire 50% of the time and heal 50% of the time. Controllable has heal as default but thats hardly hard to change.

Mannoroth[AD] (Tuesday, 19 February 2013 18:20)

Interfere? Is there any proof? I thought these are different types of heal that stack, but never tested though.

Oxi (Saturday, 16 February 2013 18:40)

It would be nice if you where able to choose which spell Priests use prior to spawning as their heals interfere with the Seer's Chain heal (love the fact you added auto cast to chain heal) though it would be good to see them heal when their target needs it rather than as soon as they take any damage.

Sinizter (Friday, 15 February 2013 08:47)

fml..... wrong game. But still would be awesome for hp >:O

Sinizter (Friday, 15 February 2013 08:46)

Wouldnt it be great if priests had a better heal? #% base hp like docs but for single target, maybe 3-5%?

Sinizter (Wednesday, 06 February 2013 11:39)

And the alchemist chem bomb (minus armour and deals dmg over time for a duration) or w.e is a better version of a spell that pally has now (minus armour in a targeted area for a duration) >.> give him that.

Sinizter (Wednesday, 06 February 2013 11:34)

*Pally*
Remove Devo and swap for a weaker version of ressurection counterpart to necromancer summon dead as a spell.

New ulti
Summons a "commander" who has many auras such as devo,command/trueshot,endu, brill
This shudnt last forever maybe 45 secs max long enough to do a push or w.e and he shud be weakish hp maybe? As he lvls maybe he gets new auras or stronger auras? Makes this more interesting then the current spells. Maybe ppl may actually look forward to getting pally. -_- We can only hope.

Pale (Monday, 04 February 2013 12:25)

so tog undead make it like the Turen hero's ulti revive with cooldown verry long so that a unit never will be able to revive more then 1 time.
or make it like a Sceleton/Death Knights ulti raised but imune Vs magic so that players don't mass troll mage vs undead :)
and make a ghost/Draneii race? so my Akama have somewhere to fit in ;) XD

Sinizter (Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:29)

Ive always wanted each unit to have an abil.

Pale (Monday, 28 January 2013 10:54)

Humm tog maybe make Race abilitys? like undead(all) have like 20% of beeing "reborn" after death? and humans getss buffs after how big the force they are in(numbers of ally(human) units is the wave/attack)
and nightlevels hpreg? orc get extra dmg after kills(bloodlust kinda) naga stronger(more hp/dmg/armor the closer to base they are (loyal to the betrayed "Illidan) demon charm(curuptoin of the demonlords a enemy units have like 10 % to be charmd and join the demon army)? maybe? just to make the races more powerfull and more fun and theme based? :D cuz we allredy have it the ULTRA weak sceletons from undeads Nercros T4 so useless die from 0.5 attcks by that time...

Sinizter (Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:08)

Staff of Preservation, NIght Elf ladder item available from thier shop when they reach t2. Tps a single friendly unit back to base for mana cost and cd. Preferably used to save weakened units to "preserve" them from dying.

Mannoroth (Thursday, 24 January 2013 21:49)

No, he doesn't. He gets suggestions exclusively by Stealth mail now (5 sec/purge).

fvg (Thursday, 24 January 2013 19:41)

Hartog, if you want the same chat as http://fvg.jimdo.com/fvg-ideas-bugs/ tell me.

Hartog (Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:25)

@Pale No

Pale (Thursday, 24 January 2013 15:04)

staff of preservation = What?
tog make all merc you buy(not hire) have armor/dmg/hp/Extra or not at all random only kodo indeed. and tog. the auras. nice that you made them weaker (those you buy) but have you make the hores auras a lil bit stronger again. and when you mix the auras Tex Warsong drum (Command arua) into Horn of someting make the % higher or increes it when you make Orb of P so you gain some few % buy Enhance them and making it into orb of P ( so they only thing you gain ain't itemslots but stronger auras aswell) plz :)

Sinizter (Thursday, 24 January 2013 10:12)

Why does sum summons low lvl give 0g >.>

Sinizters (Wednesday, 23 January 2013 13:42)

Summons are soo messed up in hp same in fvg.

Sinizter (Wednesday, 23 January 2013)

Does lvl 3 wyrm hp = lvl 3 infernal? 6.5k each rly lame if it does.
Why does hydra from naga witch have 500 range lvl 1 ? Am aqua has 300... Hydra has triple shot too. Why can u upgrade kodo attack armour hp, but not other mercs. Gets lame late game when heros can 1 shot them, or at least add staff of preservation.

Sinizter (Wednesday, 23 January 2013 11:51)

Idk barbarian seems kinda weak, useless spells and etc. Stun is nice. Avatar makes him durable while fighting. Burn aura soo lame.

Sinizter (Wednesday, 23 January 2013 10:49)

mk stomp or even a hero stun spell lvl 3* wyrm from arthas

Sinizter (Wednesday, 23 January 2013 10:47)

Why cant lvl 3 infenal have tc stomp or mk stomp lvl 3 or even a hero stun spell wyrm from arthas has frost nova. The only purpose of infernal late game is stun enemy hero ultis and the army -_-
Goblin summons legit suck.

Pale (Wednesday, 16 January 2013 10:52)

there was a kinda of a survivor thing in the base in some earlyer vers.
but yes the moonshard ability gose away so leave it in base untill you need it.

Mannoroth[AD] (Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:29)

If you swallowed it and upgraded, Starfall ability will disappear, I believe.
Otherwise, it should not.

Agree on hero days, but HP is not being fixed so idk what to expect...

anon7040 (Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:51)

Well it is now a bit better, but still I miss the good old days where a hero was a hero and it was worth to buy items in the early game. However, maybe I found also one bug, as to say that happens when applying Moon Shard to base and doing afterwards an upgrade, the ability for skyfall dissappears. It happened to me after my teammate left the game and I got about 4k extra and was on level 4. So I thought that I should have some Backup Atomic bomb because other teams still got 2 members that troubled me hard but somehow I survived long enough without needing the skyfall of the moon shard, Until tier 5 and I realized that it was not there anymore. Either a warning info msg on the Moon shard is needed to inform the player that (s)he will loose the skyfall when upgrading or you might correct it. Or even a better idea is to give a *free* skyfall to a player left alone so that (s)he might has the chance to survive sneaky attack of the two membered teams!

Pale (Tuesday, 08 January 2013 12:37)

how can tog say that heroes ain't inportant in HERO Push??
strange.. Heroes are 40-80 % of the game depending on hero and if you go lone(= Hero Fokus)
why Wisper? better to tell ideas to all?

Mannoroth (Saturday, 29 December 2012 07:02)

@ anon7040

Hartog doesn't believe heroes are important in Hero Push.
Even atrocities of new pick system failed to disillusion him.

Mannoroth (Friday, 28 December 2012 21:50)

@ TH3_G4M3
Whisper me, I have some thoughts.

TH3_G4M3 (Friday, 28 December 2012 16:21)

Deathknights Ultimate to OP.
In midgame no more chance for dispell because of hero kills troll with one shot.
at second or third attack they buy the fucking little plane and rush in base, buy troll from our shops and easy kill one base without can do anything against.
invul potion can help if you are fast enough but what against the mess he can do with his units. manaregbuilding, liferegbuilding, towers and unitbuilding (giants...) fast focus and kill - that sucks...
so at least close shops for other forces.

Pale (Thursday, 27 December 2012 17:20)

Humm lol do you play so long until T5? I use to win be4 T4 or T3 if not rush.

anon7040 (Thursday, 27 December 2012 14:17)

Played now a couple of times the *new* beta version 1.5
Have to say that it is not a hero push anymore, its more about who gets as fast as possible to the last tier. I really do not understand why the "Normal" units have become now so strong? Hardly a chance for a hero to develop over the game and there seems to be no use for any of the items, since it is more important to get to the ultimate tier. So pls, do something against this "unit" push, because its getting really boring!

Pale (Tuesday, 25 December 2012 02:43)

@ The_Game
Indeed WTF If you don't wanna paly with/VS or wanna play with m8 ask to be swaped be4 game start or leave in game-Lobby not ingame. or you ruin/make game unbalanced (no ofence tog in anyway) agree that it's not the same if someone leavein game. the first 10 min is inportant to the game (if not GG my recrod is something like 6-7m )
@ all
I for 1 have reasons for leaveing Ex. MY CPU Have time limits 22 PM GMT+1 on Sunday-Thursday and 00 AM Friday and saterday.
and if not those time I tell why or that I will leave be4 doing it so all know/is ok 90 % of those times.(sometime you gota leave fast)

oh and Nisha the only reason she is Op is Multi target her ulti and it's and Ability (perma) not an spell maybe make it into a spell tog? other then that all agree that her FDs makes it hard to run from but bash is part of wc3 even tho all that don't got it complain on it. but to get inte the Hero matter Heroes need to be stronger and weaker then others or they don't efect the make play Remember this is HP H = Hero P = Push
so there need to be difrent heroes that work with difrent game-plays. Even tho we need more Heroes and maybe 2 races I' Still Waiting for my Akama tog ;)
Humm All from me today Happy X-Mas and Merry New Year! <3

// This is wTc[Pale_94] NOT someont else. ( Orginal: Palestine_94
// Have a womrTastic Weekend. Good Luck & Have Fun

Hartog (Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:16)

it must be bot ive played single player without lagg. Map is much more efficient now than b4

Mannoroth (Sunday, 23 December 2012 18:18)

Interestingly, same kind of lag appears later in game too. I can't really determine whether it is map's or bot's one, but cannot rule out either.

Hartog (Saturday, 22 December 2012 13:12)

The reason it laggs when picking heroes is cuz the heroes arent preloaded, the alternative is longer load time, and then all heroes must be loaded instead of 8-16.

Naisha cannot use any orb without mask of death. This cannot be fixed and a red message appears when u get her warning u about the fact that she cannot use orbs without mask of death.

0-2 gold it must be for wolf summons^^

Mannoroth (Saturday, 22 December 2012 11:07)

2TH3_G4M3

It's an old Naisha's bug. Hartog might have overlooked.

True, sometimes Bot gives more lag than it usually did. Maybe just temporary problems. But I never liked the Bot because of its ~every 15 minutes delays.

Around hero pick there are two map lags.


@ #55

Who the heck are you? If you have mixed patches of WC3 you will experience such problems in Battle.net. So reinstall, cheater ^^

HartogNoob (Saturday, 22 December 2012 10:41)

Is it right to be kicked from the game when it starts? Plaze helwp me what to do i lik haro puch vary mush tis viry fon fo me T.T
-Plz Respond-

TH3_G4M3 (Saturday, 22 December 2012 09:49)

the moonglaive hero has no dmg when attacking with speeditem and dmgitem, when i bought lifestealitem he did the right dmg.
bot seems to be very laggy sometimes. not playable. is it right to get 0-1 gold for killing wolfsummons?
thats all for the moment

Sinizter (Saturday, 22 December 2012 02:20)

Be an arrogant troll I don't give two fucks. :<

Mannoroth (Saturday, 22 December 2012)

-.-
No I won't open my eyes. You are not worth it.

Sinizter (Saturday, 22 December 2012 00:40)

Maybe if you opened your fucking eyes O.O instead of being a ignorant nigger :< you would see me in game and writing on forum >.> One of the most active members wTc has ^.^

Mannoroth (Friday, 21 December 2012 23:50)

"i play enough hp to know the game just as well"

LOL. And this man of expertise says "The teammate who bought tank deserves more of a ban" and that he can easily find a reason to ban Le_Popotaucher for leaving.

Now I see why you don't write on forum, Sinizter =)

Sinizter (Friday, 21 December 2012 21:48)

Dw about me mate i play enough hp to know the game just as well as some nerd who plays 24/7.

Mannoroth (Friday, 21 December 2012 18:54)

2 Sinizter
All this has already been said and argued.
Discussion is here:
http://fvg-fourm-pl-am.2294401.n4.nabble.com/Fairplay-for-Clanmembers-tp4641114.html;cid=1356115370804-918

I also do not quite understand why you write about HP, the game you haven't been spotted playing.

Sinizter (Friday, 21 December 2012 00:42)

Only way you will get this fairplay bs is if there was a rival clan. I only joined this clan cuz of friends i had here and i gurantee most members did the same. I play against wtc on odd ocassions the ones i dont know or dont like. But i would rather have a wtc on my team than a korean.

Mannoroth (Thursday, 20 December 2012 21:40)

There's no problem here. wTc[SiCkNeSS] is bad and leaver, Slipnot is noob too.

I doubt they are even in the clan. Never seen them in the channel. Just some faux wTc remnants.

Mostly tanks are a pain when your ally doesn't know how to defend.

TH3_G4M3 (Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:24)

There is a difference between public leavers and clanplayers leaving.
Me for myselfs opinion: its a no go for clanmembers leaving this way.
Tank is part of the game, so no reason for leave.
Whats next, leaving because getting hero who is maybe imba if you can use him the right way.
fucking leaver bitches suck.
and leavers who are clanmembers suck much more.

Sinizter (Thursday, 20 December 2012 00:17)

The teammate who bought tank deserves more of a ban that him :/ and if we banned every single leaver for every fucking reason. There would be not enough ppl to start the damn game. Im sure i could a reason to ban you for leaving a game.

Le_Popotaucher (Wednesday, 19 December 2012 23:20)

wtc[5lipnot] left after teammate bought a tank, saying "tanks is for noobs" could you please ban him?

Compit (Wednesday, 12 December 2012 01:12)

Add wTc[Bit] as friend and you'll see what's the number.
Or type "/whois wTc[Bit]" in chat and it'll tell you the gamename.

Le_Popotaucher (Tuesday, 11 December 2012 11:51)

@#40 that would be a great idea, i have trouble finding the game even if its there, just trying numbers until i get in...

MuschiWuehler (Monday, 10 December 2012 18:31)

Make live update, which number is currently online on Northrend on this website.

Pale (Monday, 19 November 2012 10:51)

if you wanna start faster ask admin ingame

otamusima (Friday, 16 November 2012 02:01)

please add a 4 person votestart to hero push lobby

Pale (Tuesday, 13 November 2012 14:26)

Good then we'd have no more minor DL's 3 times a week XD

Hartog (Monday, 12 November 2012 17:30)

You can stop post suggestions for now, I'm currently remaking the map (less lagg, no leaks etc). It might take more than a month and no new updates will be released before the big one is done.

Pale (Monday, 12 November 2012 16:21)

Ahh såg oxo att vi har andra outfits för HP. (tittade inte länkarna) men det e en fett bra idé någon som Player 1 AKA Red borde få välja efter Sep Shared income Indeed?
(( sorry for not typeing in english but typeing to Tog and he is swe like me XD

Pale (Monday, 12 November 2012 14:50)

Humm idé för gamet Tog fixa en base per team och starklare så det inte går att ta ut halva teamet med target base GL & HF

Pale (Monday, 12 November 2012 14:48)

Lol game unendelbe if all maxed units full xD
then you do ninja Exit like me to end game XD

Hartog (Sunday, 11 November 2012 16:44)

@ moi i cant fix carrionr swarm or dh ulti/image combine since its a wc3 bug. and im gna rewrite all triggers so anything is possible but it will take awhile b4 priests/hunter bug is finnished since i cant find it

Moi (Saturday, 10 November 2012 21:41)

Hey i´ve played ca 700 games with different accs. (Moi1990, blablabla, wTc[Moi])
Bugs:
-sometimes the carriot swarm of the Dreadlord dont work
-u can combine the illu spell and ulti of the DH in the last sec. while ulti
- the priest / hunter bug. 100s of them appear sometimes.
Ideas:
-what about a 3v3v3v3? or a 2v2v2v2v2v2?
things that could be changed:
-naishas faerie dragons.... at lvl 19 the hero is a hero killer
- the pit lords spell with 80% damage decease... its to much
-cooldown of the lichs banish spell

MEDammit (Wednesday, 31 October 2012 03:13)

Please remove the BM. BM ruins the game, and people abuse it constantly.

KillerGreenWolf (Wednesday, 24 October 2012 17:20)

to anyone who is reading this tanks easy counter is this:
-speed scroll with melee units surrond tank
-also purge tank and do the same
-tank dies easy and noobs leave game

Rawberry2 (Sunday, 14 October 2012 16:26)

I want to tk my mates if they are afk for 5 minutes+ at beginning of game,but I cant.
Votekick doesnt work because of the other noobasses who want to farm my mate.

Remade tk or autokick if they are afk without -afk

Rawberry2 (Friday, 12 October 2012 19:25)

Tanks OP.
Nerf them or take them out.

wtc[huhu] (Tuesday, 09 October 2012 18:08)

Can't you add the feature that by whispering "!stats ..." to the bot the win/loss count is displayed additionally?

thank you! great work 'til now.

KillerGreenWolf (Tuesday, 09 October 2012 15:38)

Yo you guys need to take out the noob tank. Every damn player only uses it now and all they do is buy 2-3 at the start of game and you cant do shit against them cause not strong enough. You need to drop the tank dmg down and its life or take it out to cheap of a unit and no one has skill anymore cause of it they just use it and if it dies they just leave the game......

Dude (Sunday, 23 September 2012 15:18)

crashed on:

Fire Reaper Icon
Merizid's cloak icon
Blademaster (cant even choose abilities)
Mountain Giant (if i klick on him)

i cant test any depper because i if i klick on reasearch center it crashes - so i cant tell which one causes the problem :(

Hartog (Sunday, 23 September 2012 02:28)

all of them?

Dude (Saturday, 22 September 2012 23:23)

jep,

if i klick/use/see these icons wc3 crashed

Hartog (Saturday, 22 September 2012 22:23)

Can people with mac please test different units with custom icons

Here are the custom icons:
Merizid's cloak icon
Fire Reaper Icon
Lich King Portrait icon
Runic Armor Icon
Runic Research Icon
Stalkers Invisibility skill icon
Blademasters Mirror Skill(looks like the regular one but without borders.)

Dude (Saturday, 22 September 2012 15:57)

may you make it work on mac again?

wc3 always crashes if i klick on mountain giant or the reasearch center and some other ....

Swordyfish (Saturday, 22 September 2012 06:19)

@Prince_Biggen Please report any member abuse at the Clan wTc & wTc2 section and not under the Hero Push Ideas and Bugs. We would love to help you if you provide us with proof in the future.

Prince_Biggen (Tuesday, 18 September 2012 20:20)

wTc[Deathblade] is being abusive to people, swearing and calling people noobs, forgot to take any screenshots or anything sorry just thought you should know, gives the clan a bad name :)

Prince_Biggen (Monday, 17 September 2012)

Aint tht a bit racist? Not that i mind lol, how do i go about joining wTc clan? Ive played like 170 games n would love to join the Clan :)

wTc[Cpt.Gyno] (Friday, 14 September 2012 11:15)

Biggen, sadly it's just one of 2 things, rise of A-holes or rise of D/cing KR players. DAMN KOREANS!

Prince_Biggen (Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:33)

I have noticed a HUGE increase in teamkilling, cant you set it so you cant attack friendly buildings or something? Because it is getting ridiculous tbf

wTc[Raitou] (Thursday, 13 September 2012 08:57)

yestoday i saw horrible bug i ever see with bkademaster shadow

https://rapidshare.com/files/1219773655/what r hell.w3g
it's r replay, skip to mid

p.s sorry can't explain all aspects, have bad english
p.p.s and sorry if that bug already was found

Hartog (Monday, 10 September 2012 15:29)

this is hero push no fvg

K4B00M (Sunday, 09 September 2012 23:11)

When ghost is randomed he should be worth 900gold when sold, just like every other hero.

Hartog (Monday, 03 September 2012 16:43)

@belizee its no bug or anything just use dark wizz/high priest to dispel them and dk just lost an ulti while you gained a shitload of money

wTc[Cpt.Gyno] (Monday, 03 September 2012 03:35)

belizee, Try witch doctor to dispell them. if that won't work then it might be a bug :/

belizee (Monday, 03 September 2012 03:34)

hi i got much problem with ulti of dk- immortal units kill base its so gay and isnt avoidable by any chance witch 1 cd can kill 1.5 base... imba!

wTc[Cpt.Gyno] (Sunday, 02 September 2012)

Prince_Biggen

Try to ignore them, but still report them to us for being morons. Also, admins can't do that anymore, you get caught, bye bye.

Prince_Biggen (Sunday, 02 September 2012 14:05)

Report players area? A person called Quendan kept wispering me and swearing at me threatening to kick and ban me because i was using dust of appearance to reveal his hero and he said i was bug using. Said he was an admin which i doubt very much but can you report players and get wormtastic guys to ban him

TELLMEWHYUMAD (Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:55)

Dreadlord needs to be nerfed. after level 15 he can run into bases and kill every unit and the base without even losing health

wTc[Cpt.Gyno] (Sunday, 26 August 2012 02:08)

Add a new hero BadAss hero with 4 auras and a badass offence ulti, name shall be Sgt. Pepper with a low chance of getting of about 10%

wTc[Cpt.Gyno] (Sunday, 26 August 2012 00:57)

Hey hartog, can you make a new mercenary? Make it a troll caster and call it the Witch Doktor :D I'll give you some LSD and pot.

Hartog (Saturday, 25 August 2012 00:15)

I just wna announce that I have fixed the solo'er bounty bug now a person playin alone will alwasys give 150% bounty. (before that was not always the case)

wTc[Happy] (Tuesday, 21 August 2012 11:55)

bases can use moonshard/potions/mask of death ...unstoppable starfall in base is -.-"

immolation aoe from dreadlord and item needs better aoe... too small

Swordyfish (Tuesday, 21 August 2012 05:01)

Nethers are lame..... Super easy to base aim people.